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Do genres kill music or do people kill music?

#61
"In my day we didnt have any of this hang dog faced Emo music, we had plenty of other stuff to be depressed about, and we didnt have fancy pre-reliced reissues of cheap guitars either, no sir, all we had were shiny new guitars, but we made the best of it."
 
#65
zachoff said:
Mostly people... That said, I liked it better when there was only one genre of rap, metal, rock, country, and pop.

I blame the jazz guys. They're the ones that started it with their bebop, fusion, acid, and all that nonsense! :hiding: :D
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What about classical music ? you have classical, baroque, romantic etc area then you have style in those like Opera ( which has different caracteristic depending from where it was composed ), Minuet, Mazurka, Prelude, Fantasy ...

always been like that, the thing is now many genre merge into another so the line between them kind of blur so we can't tell the difference which isn't the same with jazz and classical where there is a set of rules that were followed.
 
#66
scorpionldr said:
Really? Metal has a lot of genres? How about the categories of "effortless" electronic?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres
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I don't know. My brother hosts a metal show on a local radio station, and even he finds it hard to keep up with all the sub-genres. My comment wasn't meant as a criticism, by the way. As for electronic music, I know nothing about it, so I couldn't say. Still, whatever type of music it is, I don't see how all this genre nonsense is particularly helpful. If nothing else, it just confuses people.
 
#67
We are in a golden age of music. With modern technology anybody can make an album and get it to people. I have a freind who plays in a local band. Just pull it up on Spotify and I'm all set. The record companies have lost their power. Its a great thing.
 
#68
scorpionldr said:
To be completely honest.....I can't think of a ton of mainstream tracks I completely hate these days.

Granted there are songs that clearly showing the limit of talent, or songs that are "much better", but the way things are today.....it actually doesn't bother me much.
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I am the exact opposite. There hasn't been any music that has come out in the last 20 years that has interested me enough to want to buy it. Too much of it is relying on sampling and auto-tune. There is very little orignality anymore.
The same is true for movies as well. Too many re-makes and too much CGI rather than rea action.
 
#69
MarkMgibson said:
I don't know. My brother hosts a metal show on a local radio station, and even he finds it hard to keep up with all the sub-genres. My comment wasn't meant as a criticism, by the way. As for electronic music, I know nothing about it, so I couldn't say. Still, whatever type of music it is, I don't see how all this genre nonsense is particularly helpful. If nothing else, it just confuses people.
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Perhaps metal is the easiest/most fun to pick on in this aspect. :p

Pre/post, progressive, death, core, and sometimes a country of origin (usually a Nordic country). One dictates how low they detune. One dictates how "complex" the rhythms are for the jugga juggas. One dictates how angry/demonic they are. ...and NEVER mix up Sweedish post progressive death core with Viking metal.

Sometimes I miss the days of glam, death, and thrash metal. Sure, there was the new wave of British metal, but it wasn't like you weren't allowed to listen to other metal of the era. Depending on the year, you couldn't be too picky with your metal friends or you wouldn't have any. Perhaps the popularity of metal overall is why guys can go nuts with the sub-genres.
 
#70
Tom_RCJ said:
But WHY does it sell? There must be measurable factors. I'm sure this would be a good sociology or psychology study. What does the success of the current mainstream musical trend say about it's principal consuming demographic.
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This might be an urban legend, but some say that the successful record producers and businessmen have found the "recipe" for an instant hit (that goes from the image of the celebrity singing/ playing it, all the way to the specific song structure and chord progression) and they guard that info like a state secret.

It would be very interesting indeed to research on the psychology of mainstream music, and the different cognitive, motivational and emotional reasons behind its success.
 
#71
tycobb73 said:
We are in a golden age of music. With modern technology anybody can make an album and get it to people. I have a freind who plays in a local band. Just pull it up on Spotify and I'm all set. The record companies have lost their power. Its a great thing.
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I've heard some musicians have resorted to this online "life" called Second Life to promote their own music on the virtual world... reaching, quite obviously, real life people in the process who pay the musicians with real life money.

Sounds like a good alternative.
 
#73
Let's ask ourselves:

What is music?

"Music is the art of well-combined sound and time."

Now let's ask ourselves:

What is the music business?

Same answer. "The art of well combined sound and time."

The right sound for the time. If people want it/like it, it will sell, because it's the sound that suits the time.

Love it, hate it, embrace it, fight it, live it, loath it, leave it, do what you will - But it is what it is.
 
#75
spade2you said:
Perhaps metal is the easiest/most fun to pick on in this aspect. :p

Pre/post, progressive, death, core, and sometimes a country of origin (usually a Nordic country). One dictates how low they detune. One dictates how "complex" the rhythms are for the jugga juggas. One dictates how angry/demonic they are. ...and NEVER mix up Sweedish post progressive death core with Viking metal.

Sometimes I miss the days of glam, death, and thrash metal. Sure, there was the new wave of British metal, but it wasn't like you weren't allowed to listen to other metal of the era. Depending on the year, you couldn't be too picky with your metal friends or you wouldn't have any. Perhaps the popularity of metal overall is why guys can go nuts with the sub-genres.
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I wasn't picking on metal, or making fun of it. There's just so many damn sub-genres in metal which make it the most obvious example. I think all the tags are mostly counter-productive.
 
#76
Kmonk said:
I am the exact opposite. There hasn't been any music that has come out in the last 20 years that has interested me enough to want to buy it. Too much of it is relying on sampling and auto-tune. There is very little orignality anymore.
The same is true for movies as well. Too many re-makes and too much CGI rather than rea action.
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There are plenty of original and interesting music & movies out there, you just have to look further from the mainstream offerings to find them.
If youre not finding the good stuff youve only yourself to blame.
 

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