Do I need an 8x10?

[BadBass]

I am now considering an Ashdown MAG 8x10, and a MAG 600r head. I will use my rig for general shows with say big bands, concert bands, pit work etc. I wont be using it for on stage playing probably, maybe once , but i dont intend to much.

I am just wondering, do I need an 8x10, would it be worth it? I do like loud though

Thanks
BB

 

[fretless Bob]

i would say probably no

I dont think anyone playing outside of an arena needs an 8x10 anymore, you could get a perfectly good sound and enough voluem out of a 4x10 or a 2x12 with the right amp.


Dave

 

[throw_this_away]

I think very few people need 8x10's anymore with the invention of the XLR line out and the PA. Plenty of volume and great tone to be had in smaller cabs.

However... If I had the money and the ability to transport one... I would own one too (though I am sure my band would poke fun at me).

 

[fretless Bob]

even a good DI would do the job with the right pa support


Dave

 

[Ryan L.]

I agree with the others. But, it isn't just about need. Do you want an 810?? If so, get one.

 

[fretless Bob]

I agree with the others. But, it isn't just about need. Do you want an 810?? If so, get one.

i dont know about that, if you are planning on doing pit work and stuff in theatres im sure you would lose work carting around an 8x10, of all of the big band gigs ive been to anyone with anything more than a 2x10/2x12 seems to be really frowned upon, and quite often the guy with the 1x15 is moaned at for even having an amp at all.

i don't like it but it is the way things can be.

a phrase that comes to mind here is the right tool for the job

a lot of guys seem to think that a big amp can only play loud and that there is no volume control on them.


think about what jobs you are looking for and decide what to get to suit that job.


Dave

 

[Crescent Seven]

8x10's are awesome until you have to move them up or down a flight of stairs by yourself. Trust me.
C7

 

[Stubb]

An 8x10 for pit work or concert bands is absurd. I always used a 2x10 playing pits and that was overkill. Now that I have something smaller (LDS 1x8), I'd use that and probably feel about right.

I do agree that you have to get something that you want, but you have to use some reason in deciding. For pits, a 1x12 or smaller would be best. I would say buy a quality 1x12 and then buy a bigger cab later on if you need it for rock gig work.

 

[fretless Bob]

An 8x10 for pit work or concert bands is absurd. I always used a 2x10 playing pits and that was overkill. Now that I have something smaller (LDS 1x8), I'd use that and probably feel about right.

I do agree that you have to get something that you want, but you have to use some reason in deciding. For pits, a 1x12 or smaller would be best. I would say buy a quality 1x12 and then buy a bigger cab later on if you need it for rock gig work.

+1000


Dave

 

[billfitzmaurice]

I will use my rig for general shows with say big bands, concert bands, pit work etc. I wont be using it for on stage playing probably, maybe once , but i dont intend to much. I do like loud though.

For those gigs how you like it might not be the same as how the man who signs the check likes it. I'd be quite sure of being able to use what an 8x10 offers before either buying one or lugging it about.

 

[invader3k]

Like others have suggested, an 8x10 sounds pretty impractical for what you're going to be using it for. Unless you have a roadie or two to lug the thing, then by all means go ahead.

 

[Magical_Max]

At the theatre that I do tech work at the pit is small, and would struggle to get the 8x10 down the stairs and then no-one else in the band would be able to hear themselves. You'd also get un-amused faces from the rest of the techs..
As others have said 2x10 or smaller could be fine. I think (can't speak for all theatres) will almost always use a DI, so the pit can be balanced and out front can be balance more effectively.
I personally use an 8x10 for larger "rock" gigs, if I had the money and had the gigs to take it to in the first place.

 

[Son of Bovril]

Instead of buying onbe big cab like an 810, try looking at 2 or three smaller cabs that could then be combined for bigger gigs... like say a 4ohm 410 and two 8ohm 210s? that'll make up an 810 in total if your head can run down to 2ohms? lets you also use the 410 or 210s separately for smaller and intermediate shows...

 

[kitcar765]

i hate 8x10's lol

 

[Ryan L.]

i dont know about that, if you are planning on doing pit work and stuff in theatres im sure you would lose work carting around an 8x10, of all of the big band gigs ive been to anyone with anything more than a 2x10/2x12 seems to be really frowned upon, and quite often the guy with the 1x15 is moaned at for even having an amp at all.

i don't like it but it is the way things can be.

a phrase that comes to mind here is the right tool for the job

a lot of guys seem to think that a big amp can only play loud and that there is no volume control on them.


think about what jobs you are looking for and decide what to get to suit that job.


Dave

Oops. My bad, I should have read the original post more thoroughly.

If it isn't going to be used in a louder, band setting, then I would change my opinion to no. I can't imagine needing an 810 cabinet for that kind of work.

Right tool for the job is a phrase that I will definitely second.

 

[Masher88]

8x10's are awesome until you have to move them up or down a flight of stairs by yourself. Trust me.
C7

+1 I own an Ampeg 8x10...I got sick of lugging it to shows, upstairs etc. I got a Schroeder 310212. half the size...all the balls!

 

[fretless Bob]

i hate 8x10's lol

+1

 

[BadBass]

I just thought it would look pretty cool to be honest, and get a massive sound Im only a teenager...i never think of the practicalities

It was either that, or a MAG 410. If I get a 4x10, then I wouldnt really need a 600w head then would I? The 300H would be fine?
My teacher does alot of pit work, and only ever uses a 2x10. He said that you only use the amp as a monitor. Maybe if i get a 4x10 or 2x10, I could get a better head altogether? btw, I have about £500 to spend, maybe just over. Could I get something like that for such a small amount of money? Ampeg? Trace? SWR? 300w+?????

Thanks

BB

 

[Plain Old Me]

How bout instead of a big 810, you get a really nice 410 or 212 or something like that?

 

[theshadow2001]

I would recomend you getting one of Invalid Link Removed amps. It would be ideal for a pit setting it's small light ballsy and loud. Plus its angled so you can put it up facing your ears like a monitor. Then when you need added balls you get one of Invalid Link Removed to sick underneath it. Trust me you can't go wrong with one of these. I believe it would be better than what ashdown has to offer as well.