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Do I need an 8x10?

SteveC said:
I played JC Superstar in a pit with full horns, keys, drums, guitar, singers miced, etc. I used an SWR WM10. 80 watts, 10" speaker. I had it at 3. It was too loud.

8X10? Come on, let's get real and quit with the "penis" rigs. Use what you NEED.

I played Grease once, using 150 watts through a 2x10. The tone was killer, and I didn't have anything smaller at the time, but it was overkill. Grease is a "loud pit" - two guitars, keys, two tenors, drums ... and still, my amp was pretty much overkill.

I played Working twice. Once, I used a GK200MB, which was just about the right amp for it. The other time, I used a Phil Jones Briefcase that I was borrowing. It doesn't have a reputation for being a very loud amp, and it was pretty much the perfect pit amp. Small footprint, great tone, good DI, and SMALL.


You could bring an 8x10 to a pit gig, but only if the guitarist was using a halfstack and the drummer was playing an Alex Van Halen kit (i.e. huge). The only musical you this group would get called to do would be Cinderella, but not the one with the girl at the ball - the one with 4 hair metal guys....
 
My teacher uses a 2x10 Peavey in pit work. That works great! But that will have the same footprint as a 4x10?

Thinking smaller again then. Would I be able to get a fantastic 2x10 (Ampeg, SWR, Mesa, Eden?) with a head for under £600?

Why not a 4x10 though? It is cheaper that 2 2x10s, and has the same footprint as a 2x10?

Thanks!

BB:bassist: :bassist:
 
You could put the 4x10 on one edge:smug: :D









I can see that I am probably going to end up getting 2 2x10s now. My teacher reccomended this in the 1st place:o
Which ones then??

Few suggestions??

I know this is no longer bout 8x10s, but oh well:hmm:

Ashdown Mag 300H + 2x MAG 210 cabs??
Warwick Pro fet 3.2 + 2x 211 Pro???

Other suggestions??

My teacher has a Trace head which I would like to buy off him:D Ask him tomorrow, If i could get that then awesome!!

Anyone with separate head and cabs for sale in Lancashire UK, PM me;)
 
I'd recommend two Aguilar GS112s. You can use one for pit work, etc, and 2 together will really kick out the volume, if need be. You could even start with one, and get a second if you end up needing it. You can even get the second one as a GS112NT, which has no tweeter, and will save you some bucks. One tweeter is plenty for 2 12" speakers. Plus, these Aggies sound Mo' Bitchen.
 
I have (2) Trace Elliot 2x10s and (2) Trace Elliot 1x15s as one rig and (2) Aguilar 12s as another rig.. Guess which setup gets played more?

You dont need an 8x10 for your situation.. Dont be suprised though if people dont ask you to come back because your rig is too big (has happened before) or they tell you to turn down even if you arent loud at all.. Just the visual aspect of an 8x10 on stage makes crybabies ears bleed.

I'd love to have an 8x10 at every gig I play but its just not practical.
 
Eventually we end up having different rigs for different gigs. It is hard to get your sound out of a big rig when all else is quiet. I wished I had had all the nice choices of small rigs back in the day because sometimes you couldn't do justice to the tune when you could play Wembly with a rig when you needed 1x12. All I had to practice with a great singer songwriter doing Rodney Crowell type stuff was a 4x15 Marshall cab with a Marshall Super Bass 100 head. And no PA. It was embarrassing asking him to help me move it. Now I get called back to the singer song writer gigs because I get a big sound at acoustic guitar levels.
I use a 1x8, 2x8 BBII, one or two CXL 112s, or one or two G3s. Different musics different gigs, different halls, house concerts, coffee houses, large outdoor festivals. I have showed up with a Taylor Acoustic Bass Guitar and a Countryman direct box. Wow, it was like being a piccolo player for once!
 
For pit work, it's important to be versatile, in your playing, style, and sound. A good all around clean amp is a good bet. You can later add in signal processing to sound like something different. PODs, Ampeg SVX, V-Bass - are all fabulous at modeling other sounds - such as what an 8x10 sounds like.

The Mark bass look good but haven't hit the states.
 
I would personally go with the two 1x12s, i find 2x10s way to zingy

but if you are gonna go with the 2x10 you are prob better off with the ashdown but you could ge a better cab for the money.

An edan cab would work nicely for your situation, and if i recall that they arnt that pricey either.


good luck with your search


Dave