Work with the eq on your amp and guitarist amp. If that doesn't work then go for more power and and a solid half cab.
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do i need more cab
- Thread starter Rhon
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Actually it probably is the amp head, not the cab, it may be too much of a "wooly" tone to cut thru. Lower the bass on it first, and see what happens. Also bring your gain down a little and volume up.
Agreed with others... You have plenty of cab and watts. The problem lies elsewhere.
And BTW your guitarist has more rig than he needs. He could cut his wattage and cab both by half and still be fine.
And BTW your guitarist has more rig than he needs. He could cut his wattage and cab both by half and still be fine.
LOL yes more cabs!
I guess i need to clarify even more, the guitar distorted is much louder than the clean guitar, but the distortion pedal sucks out his mids which allows the bass to sit ok, but not great in the band mix.
During the clean parts, his mids come back in and just wipe out my bass. Where I can't hear the bass unless i overpower him. the more i think about it, the more i agree that it is an issue of eq and not cab and volume.
The guitarist is actually asking for the bass to be more present, not louder, but present. I feel like i'm lacking and he at one point suggested getting another cab. i have the mids cranked but i dont like the way it makes my tone so much like a horn.
I don't know if the Ampeg PF500 has sweepable mids, but i'll check. and the band mix with the guitar/drums/vocals is great it's just my bass is either too quiet or too loud, its been the biggest problem of just right, most of our shows im too loud or too quiet.
When im too loud the band mix sounds like mud and theres no more clarity. If i understand correctly, clarity comes from the mids and definition from treble.
Thanks for all the suggestions, so i think i should get an eq pedal or is there a magic setting that'll allow me to sit well in the mix, at one point we put the guitar tracked and analyzed it on a freq graph, theres a cut in the 800hz, but when i boosted there it didnt help much, when i boosted in the 450hz it cut better, but its muddier as a whole mixed with the band.
I guess i need to clarify even more, the guitar distorted is much louder than the clean guitar, but the distortion pedal sucks out his mids which allows the bass to sit ok, but not great in the band mix.
During the clean parts, his mids come back in and just wipe out my bass. Where I can't hear the bass unless i overpower him. the more i think about it, the more i agree that it is an issue of eq and not cab and volume.
The guitarist is actually asking for the bass to be more present, not louder, but present. I feel like i'm lacking and he at one point suggested getting another cab. i have the mids cranked but i dont like the way it makes my tone so much like a horn.
I don't know if the Ampeg PF500 has sweepable mids, but i'll check. and the band mix with the guitar/drums/vocals is great it's just my bass is either too quiet or too loud, its been the biggest problem of just right, most of our shows im too loud or too quiet.
When im too loud the band mix sounds like mud and theres no more clarity. If i understand correctly, clarity comes from the mids and definition from treble.
Thanks for all the suggestions, so i think i should get an eq pedal or is there a magic setting that'll allow me to sit well in the mix, at one point we put the guitar tracked and analyzed it on a freq graph, theres a cut in the 800hz, but when i boosted there it didnt help much, when i boosted in the 450hz it cut better, but its muddier as a whole mixed with the band.
Your guitar player has to come to the EQ party. You can try to work around him with another EQ pedal but I doubt you will totally succeed.
If you have the Ultra low button engaged, pop it out. Try placing the mid selector to the 3rd or 4th position and bump the mids to about 1-2 oclock.
Set your treble flat and have the bass around 1 oclock as well. I would then make sure the compressor isnt on too strong and make sure the gain is at least around 1 oclock.
Thats a pretty basic setting that should let the cab breathe for the most part. Depending on what kind of bass your playing mess with the tone knob as well as Jimmy pointed out. He knows what hes talking about.
Set your treble flat and have the bass around 1 oclock as well. I would then make sure the compressor isnt on too strong and make sure the gain is at least around 1 oclock.
Thats a pretty basic setting that should let the cab breathe for the most part. Depending on what kind of bass your playing mess with the tone knob as well as Jimmy pointed out. He knows what hes talking about.
I would first try to put the cab on top of something so its closer to your head so you could hear it better. My ampeg 810 sounds loud but the speakers in them aren't the most high powered out there. Yeah it's louder because it has more speakers but mostly cause I have speakers closer to my head. People try the svt210av on the floor and say it isnt loud. But if you ran four of them stacked 4 feet high it would be very close to the 810 tone and volume wise. I actually would do that if I could get the 210av in a 16ohm so I could run 4 at 4ohms.
