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Do I need to know theory to play?

I admit to not having read all 7 pages so far, but I read three.

Music theory is like a GPS. It won't transport you to your destination, but it will make getting there quicker and more efficient. You don't need it to get to your momma's house, but it will be very helpful getting to a distant vacation spot you have never been before. And owning a GPS won't show you how to drive and doesn't automatically make you a better driver.

Theory is a tool to overcome the shortcomings in our ability to recognize the patterns in the music we listen to.

If you have really good ears, you don't need theory. But most people don't have good ears, so learning theory is a big help. I discovered the E7#9 chord by listening to Hendrix, but theory explained why it sounded the way it is. I knew vaguely that there were "Major" and "Minor" scales, but theory showed which scale goes best with a particular setting.

In jazz, we say you learn theory to understand the songs and learn how to improvise. (Its pretty much a necessity for jazz). And once you have your ear developed, you can forget the theory.

Music theory is not a "thing" (unless you are getting paid to teach it). Its just a set of observations on what works and why within a certain genre of music.

You don't need to understand the 4 laws of electromagnetism to use a tube amp. But if you want to do a repair, yo better have some electrical theory.....


Likewise, Four semesters of classical theory is great for someone who wants to dig in deep, but mostly a waste of time for a someone who just wants to play blues - go learn major and minor chords and pentatonic scales and you are good to go. Your time would be better spent listening to music and noting the patterns. If you play jazz seriously, a semester of jazz theoro trumps four semesters of classic music theory. If you play country, learning the number system and having a solid grasp of the 7 major modes plus the major and minor pentatonic scales will do it.

From personal experience, I have found that music theory plus piano skills are awesome and opens up a lot of doors to musical ideas ...... but that's just me.

How much theory you needs depends on where you are going. Learning the intervals, major diatonic modes, the major and minor pentatonic scales and how to construct chords is high value.

Edit, you could forget the theory once you have mastered your area, but the theory gives a structure, so its still useful to keep around.
 
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I'm frustrated. Music theory is just not clicking with me. I feel like my brain just isn't wired to understand it. My instructor will go over something pretty basic, but then when he expands on it, or shows me something "that I can do now that I know that" I just don't get it. And it's driving me crazy and sapping my desire to practice. Honestly, I don't even know how to explain what he's showing me that I'm not getting...so yeah, that's where I'm at with theory.

I can play some songs based on tabs. Or my instructor will write out the song with just the chord in each measure & and I'll decide what note(s) I'll play to accompany the song. John Hiatt's "Dust Down A Country Road" for example. Instructor gave me the chords in each measure & I came up with a line pretty close to what Davey Faragher plays...but not exactly what he plays.

So I can do some things but I feel like I will only progress if I know some theory...but what if I just can't understand it? Am I sunk? If I simply can't understand theory what can I do?

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!

If you want to speak a language, in this case the language of music, it helps a great deal to understand the grammar of that language...
That said, I am not William Shakespeare, I do not enjoy reading William Shakespeare, and I damn sure do not want to be William Shakespeare.
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So just an update on some progress I've made. Working in the A major scale. 4 beats of A with a fill measure on the scale to D. 4 beats of D with a fill measure on the scale to E. 4 beats of E with a fill measure on the scale back to A...and repeat.

The goal of the excercise is to do this without playing the same exact fill each time. It's interesting to hear how it all fits together, which helps it make sense to me!
 
So just an update on some progress I've made. Working in the A major scale. 4 beats of A with a fill measure on the scale to D. 4 beats of D with a fill measure on the scale to E. 4 beats of E with a fill measure on the scale back to A...and repeat.

The goal of the excercise is to do this without playing the same exact fill each time. It's interesting to hear how it all fits together, which helps it make sense to me!

Sounds like fun, but here's a thought...
Randomly playing notes of the scale will only get you so far. Try to play the same thing more than once. Try to repeat what you played last time. Hear it with your ears. Hear it in your head. Play it back. Repeat. Pick a different line of fill and do the same.
Eventually you will get bored and start hearing variations in your head. The difference now will be that you will find you can play what you hear as you hear it...
 
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Sounds like fun, but here's a thought...
Randomly playing notes of the scale will only get you so far. Try to play the same thing more than once. Try to repeat what you played last time. Hear it with your ears. Hear it in your head. Play it back. Repeat. Pick a different line of fill and do the same.
Eventually you will get bored and start hearing variations in your head. The difference now will be that you will find you can play what you hear as you hear it...
Thank you! I have been doing that as well. What I'm trying to get down is where to go for those notes. Like when a # fits & when it doesn't...and it's glaringly obvious lol! :roflmao:

I play through the scale multiple times too, saying the notes out loud as I go. It's really helping!