Do women mind being called girls?

[Killed_by_Death]

The vote is not public, but it is a one-time selection, can't change your mind later.

Not meant to start an argument, but would like to know how women feel about it.

 

[Stewie26]

The above women is a little too PC for me. My wife and her Girl friends go out once a month and they call it, "Girls Night Out". They are all middle age. Of course when they are out having fun they act like teenagers again. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[bholder]

The keyboardist in my last band still referred to women as "chicks".

 

[ZenG]

The Spice Girls called themselves girls..

 

[guy n. cognito]

My wife and her friends refer to themselves as girls. Most women I know do as well. We all also refer to men as boys frequently. No one gets offended.....

 

[Luke19Boarder]

Some women don't like being called girls. Some women don't care. There isn't a hive mind where they all feel the same way.

Whichever you decide to use, just don't be condescending.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

There's no hive, but there is such a thing as a majority.

I stopped calling women girls once I lived overseas.
In Thailand they don't even call students of K-12 the same as students in college or university.
A K-12 is a Nuk Reeun
A college or university student is a Nuk Seuksah

but age is referenced a lot in their language
an uncle older than you father has a different prefix than the uncle who is younger
same for females older or younger than your mother

An older person is called Pee
and a younger person is call Nong

 

[DiabolusInMusic]

You want to know how women feel about it so you asked a predominantly male forum that has a fairly long track record of misogyny? I just wonder what the response will be... Hell, the OP makes comments that reduce women to objects several times a week.

 

[DiabolusInMusic]

The keyboardist in my last band still referred to women as "chicks".

Ugh, how out-dated. Here at TB we use acceptable terms like "singer babe" to reduce women.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I don't even know where you're coming from with that comment. Please direct me to where I "reduce women to objects"

This should be easy for you, since it happens several times a week.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

She also sets up a false dichotomy by saying "no one would say the boy behind the bank counter" as opposed to saying girl at the bar. They're different situations and both men and women say "check out that boy at the bar" all the time.

She must never listen to popular music as both sexes use the word "baby" in 90% of it.

 

[blastoff99]

I discovered recently that many women I know hate to be called "ma'am" by strangers in public. They HATE it. In fact, every woman I asked hates it. Demeaning, false polite crap, was pretty much what they said.

And it adds no value. "Welcome - table or booth?" is every bit as good as throwing a ma'am in there.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I think a lot women feel old when they get called Ma'am.

 

[guy n. cognito]

I don't even know where you're coming from with that comment. Please direct me to where I "reduce women to objects"

This should be easy for you, since it happens several times a week.

DIM seems to have pretty extremist views on the subject, from what I've seen. He does have a point, though: there are about 4 active women members here. Your sample size is going to be laughable.

 

[guy n. cognito]

She also sets up a false dichotomy by saying "no one would say the boy behind the bank counter" as opposed to saying girl at the bar. They're different situations and both men and women say "check out that boy at the bar" all the time.

She must never listen to popular music as both sexes use the word "baby" in 90% of it.

To me, the male equivalent of "girl" is "guy".....which you hear all the time.

 

[DiabolusInMusic]

I don't even know where you're coming from with that comment. Please direct me to where I reduce women to objects

This should be easy for you, since it happens several times a week.

Here is just one of the countless examples:

I don't dig her music, but I make sure to get my eyes full when she's in that telephone commercial.
I can't even recall which provider it is, because I'm too focused on her.

You regularly post about women's looks and your feelings on them. I could easily dig up a pile of quotes from you but I don't really feel like wasting my time highlighting a behaviour that you know you engage in.

 

[DiabolusInMusic]

DIM seems to have pretty extremist views on the subject, from what I've seen. He does have a point, though: there are about 4 active women members here. Your sample size is going to be laughable.

I wouldn't call advocating for basic levels of respect "extremist" but, as they say, to each their own.

 

[blastoff99]

I think a lot women feel old when they get called Ma'am.

It isn't that, or wasn't for the ones I asked. Most of them *are* old, and readily admit it. They felt it was a more PC way of saying "honey" or "sweetie." It didn't matter if the speaker was male or female, either.

And again, it just doesn't add value. It also can get you into a messy situation if the person you've just ma'am'd doesn't identify as a woman.

Edit for fone phingers.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

Odd, because it bugs me when I get called sweetie in public by gals I don't know.

You regularly post about women's looks and your feelings on them.

I won't stop either, especially when the commercial is throwing her looks at you.
It's the whole point of the ad, that you can apparently score with her if you have unlimited data, and her looks are a huge factor.

BTW, you won. Yes, you're better than me.
Wasn't that your point?

 

[58kites]

The above women is a little too PC for me. My wife and her Girl friends go out once a month and they call it, "Girls Night Out". They are all middle age. Of course when they are out having fun they act like teenagers again. Nothing wrong with that.

What the woman in the video is saying is true, slave owners called their man slaves boy for a reason, calling grown women girls is a similar thing. Your wife and her girlfriends can call each other girls all they want, it is not the same as grown men referring to them as girls or chicks.
If anybody doubts this, start calling your male friends boy and see how well that goes over.
"Hey boy, how's it going?" as opposed to "Hey man, how's it going?"
Women don't refer to a good looking man as a boy unless the man (and usually the woman) are in their early 20's.
Some young women will say things like "We're going out to look for hot boys tonight", but that is a very different thing than referring to grown women as girls all the time.
It is condescending and I'm pretty sure the majority of women do care.
Lots of women get immune to it because it happens constantly, but they would prefer men did not give small signals that would suggest they are superior.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of social customs that give mixed signals, so men can easily be confused about the difference between holding a door open and some other custom like shaking hands as opposed to a hug at meeting a woman.
I have been the employer of hundreds of young to middle aged women for the last 10 years, and been told by lots of them what they think about lots of things.