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Do you noodle on stage???

I was guilty of this when I was young, but only during rehearsals. An ill tempered singer told me to stop, I didn’t even realize I was doing anything wrong. He explained that silence between songs was as important as rests during a song.

These days, I won’t judge a band or tune them out, sometimes it’s just nerves on stage, I get it. We were all new up there sometime. Just go along with it and enjoy the music.
 
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I had the very good fortune about 20 years ago of taking an introductory jazz performance course from a great jazz pianist/instructor. He taught a lot of things about musical professionalism as well as jazz performance which I use to this day..

He required absolute silence on the stage when not performing. You didn't make the mistake twice.
One of the benefits of studying with a good teacher is that they also act as mentor and teach you how to conduct yourself as a professional. I was lucky and always had good teachers. There just was no question about whether you were going to learn to read music, read a chart, learn theory, play by ear, practice, be on time, own professional grade equipment, and many other things that are so ingrained in me I don't even think about them.

Today, kids watch a Youtube video and because they can put their finger on the right note at the right time, think they are ready for the big time. There is so much more to being a professional than just playing.
 
In my band, Knucklehead, we were all sometimes guilty of noodling. But there's a decent group of fans that come to every show. So a noodle would turn into the fans screaming for us to play that song being noodled.
We always obliged.
That being said, Noodling in general is not very professional. It's also not the worst thing in the world IMO.
 
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I totally agree w/ OP and have told that to my bandmates (well, ex-bandmates now) thousands of times before. They looked like idiots tuning for hours/chatting w/ each other and ignoring the audience.
 
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I usually play a couple of notes before we start after a break etc. to see if everything is working. Seriously, one or two notes max. I wouldn't call it noodling, but maybe it is. Probably shouldn't do that either but I just want to make sure that I'm on.
Play one quick note muted to see if you are on.

Anything more than one shake and you are performing self abuse.
 
At the risk of TB heresy, I'd like to suggest that this depends on the context. I suspect what most of us are going for is to put on a good show. That means showing the audience (where we're fortunate enough to have one) a coordinated team and knows that we're there to give them a good time. There's no question that a bandmember appearing distracted, off in their own world, pleasuring themselves, trying to remember the parts they didn't practice, nervous-ticking, or showing their girlfriend how well they practiced "Longview" on stage doesn't contribute to that.

On the other hand, a little noise here and there might actually be a legitimate part of a show. For example, in the right setting, spontaneously starting a pad as the band leader preps to go into the first (or next) song can make the show better, not worse, especially while it helps to fill some necessary gap or build a bridge between numbers - particularly where the members coordinate and work together.

Or, say, you're playing a rock show in spandex (cover band in a bar or an originals act in an arena, whatever), the band comes out together, and the guitarist looks at the crowd and plays a big power chord and sticks a pick arm in the air, looking the crowd dead on, while the other guys and gals are getting strapped in. Then the drummer plays one big fill, answering that chord, the bassist makes some noise underneath, and the singer prances on, suede tassels on his chaps waving in perfect sync with his silky perm, and shouts something rock'n'roll. The fact that you didn't talk that through or chart it out doesn't mean you're not telling that roomful of mullets to get ready to rock. And if it's right, you'll get that same feedback (also appropriate here) right back from them.

Even a little tuning or tone checking can be part and parcel of telling people "here comes the band." The symphony reference is apt. No one is telling them not to tune. It's part of the rhythm of the show.

Having absolute rules about these things, devoid of context, robs us of spontaneity and energy. And if there's an obvious tension to it (for example, what persists after the OCD guy has beaten the now-resentful noodler into submission) that sucks the energy out of a room. Or maybe you have a group that's done this Holiday Inn gig a million times to pay the rent, plays Hotel California note-for-note limp, and is obviously bored. No not-noodling is going to save that show.

If the show doesn't call for noodling, of course, don't do it. A high-production, choreographed gig is effective because everything is tighter than a mosquito's ass, including no noodling. And that shows the audience that you're pros and you're there to show them a good time - at that show. But that's not every show.

Instead, I suggest it's better to focus on being keyed into one another and the audience, identifying what you're there for, and doing - or not doing - what serves the context and the show and brings you closer to the audience. If everything you do serves your team and your purpose and communicates with the folks who came out to see you, that's going to come through.

p.s. a big +1 to the no reflexive giving away the hook of the next song between songs. Unless of course, it's intentional and serves the show.
 
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The only rule that we have is to not play the riff of the song, at volume, directly before we play the actual song. We're professionals, and we know what constitutes a quick line check of a different guitar, or limbering up a bit for a particularly tough song. We also tend to have a lot of samples between songs and built in "noodly bits".

Personally, i hate listening to dead air between songs. I either want to see a band flow from song to song, or have meaningful engagement with the audience (and "HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING TONIGHT!?" doesn't count). Hearing some light drum work, guitar chugs, or a few bass slaps reminds me more of an athlete loosening up a little bit before a race; while this is art, it's also a physical activity.
 
The only rule that we have is to not play the riff of the song, at volume, directly before we play the actual song. We're professionals, and we know what constitutes a quick line check of a different guitar, or limbering up a bit for a particularly tough song. We also tend to have a lot of samples between songs and built in "noodly bits".

Personally, i hate listening to dead air between songs. I either want to see a band flow from song to song, or have meaningful engagement with the audience (and "HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING TONIGHT!?" doesn't count). Hearing some light drum work, guitar chugs, or a few bass slaps reminds me more of an athlete loosening up a little bit before a race; while this is art, it's also a physical activity.
If you have to limber up on stage, your not a professional. Does Geddy wank between numbers?
 
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Today, kids watch a Youtube video and because they can put their finger on the right note at the right time, think they are ready for the big time. There is so much more to being a professional than just playing.

On the other hand, there's also plenty of big-name YouTubers who will talk about professionalism, or kids who spend hours on music forums where people will complain for hours on end about minor things.

I think the value of a teacher is to have someone you trust who can tell you when you suck... much more valuable than getting a "great set dude" from someone who can't think of anything nice to say, or simply not getting called back to play without any explanation.
 
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I've cut back on it, but when I did it, it was usually to work something out. I have a longtime bandmate who can’t stand it, so I kind of meet him halfway.

Another thing that bugs him is using the mics for conversation.
 
If you have to limber up on stage, your not a professional. Does Geddy wank between numbers?

Nope. But nobody here is Geddy Lee (unless Geddy Lee is here, and posting under a different account).

I'm also not doing 200+ shows a year, and my tunes are physically demanding *edit: (I mean, Geddy's are too)*. Judge all you want, i'm gonna loosen up before the tunes I play (primarily at zero volume).
 
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