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Do you run your tuner through a loop box?

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The TU-2 isn't that bad for tonesuck. Are you using an all-passive bass? If so, definitely don't put the TU-2 in a loop. The difference might not be night-and-day if you do, but having that Boss buffer first in chain actually helps your tone a little, especially depending on how many other pedals you're using.

Personally the Turbo Tuner Mini is the top choice (my bass is active.)
 
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Nope, I used a Korg rack tuner with a crappy bypass for years, had a cable running from the back of my amp using the tuner out or rack pre the dry 1/4 out of the sans amp rbi were always going to it. So Id glance at it while we were playing instead of tuning between songs where everyone could hear it. These days I use a shure glxd wireless system which has a great built in tuner.
 
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askani19 said:
Just curious if anyone uses a loop pedal with a tuner to avoid loss of tone. I have an extra loop pedal and currently using a boss tu2.
Maybe I'm over thinking it...
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Hello. You seem to mean 'dedicate one looper pedal loop to a tuner'. I would not use up a loop for tuning.

I use a looper pedal that has a 'tuner out' feature: it has a dedicated output for sending to a tuner, for which there is no corresponding return input; a switch toggles between sending the instrument audio to 1. the tuner, or 2. the main buss (that contains the switchable loops).

Some instrument amps, etc. use the same technique.
 
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I haven't noticed any sound degradation with either my Turbo Tuner ST-200 or ST-300 mini tuners. That said, I want the ability to have the tuner on constantly (so I can check intonation during a song if I choose), so I am having a pedal built with a tuner out, but no return.
 
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BazzTard said:
My MXR M80 DI+ has a parallel out jack. I run my tuner thru that so i can always tell if I'm in tune whilst playing.
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Well, I used my tuner as a mute/kill switch for the signal running through my board. So, to have my cake and eat it too so to speak, I am having a mute/kill switch with tuner out pedal made. That way I can tune silently when I want, and also check tuning while I'm playing (best of both worlds).
When it's done, I'll update the thread I started regarding this need/project: 1590a size kill/mute switch pedal with separate tuner out | TalkBass.com
 
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yes. the last pedal in my chain is a radial aby which has a tuner out. i've got a polytune 2 there. it works for tuning silently or with sound and without any popping noises. people complain about tone suck with different tuners and with certain buffered pedals, but since just about all the pedals i have are new-ish, they're all true bypass. so instead of sucking tone when out of the loop, they make terrible popping noises and because my cable is now 25ft instead of 10ft, add a bit of noise and mess with the high end. i resolved this putting a boss dd-3 in the middle of the chain. which to my ears doesn't suck any more tone than anything else that i've put in there to muck up the tone.
 
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brett adams said:
yes. the last pedal in my chain is a radial aby which has a tuner out. i've got a polytune 2 there. it works for tuning silently or with sound and without any popping noises.
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I purchased the new Turbo Tuner ST-300 mini. No popping at all and the switch is acoustically silent as well.


brett adams said:
...because my cable is now 25ft instead of 10ft, add a bit of noise and mess with the high end. i resolved this putting a boss dd-3 in the middle of the chain. which to my ears doesn't suck any more tone than anything else that i've put in there to muck up the tone.
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Did you try adding a buffer to the beginning of your loop? I just saw a video explaining and demonstrating why a buffer pedal is helpful in a long cable situation. Let's see if I can find it... ah yes, here it is:





Hope that helps...
 
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the boss dd-3 has a buffer. i put it in the middle because i prefer distortion and other modulation before delay rather than the other way around. i started buying pedals in the early 90s when basically everything, except a handful of vintage pedals, was built with a buffer. the only pedals back then that seemed to degrade the sound on or off were DODs. and i'm glad that most of them weren't to liking anyway.
 
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If you do decide to remove a tuner from the signal chain, an A/B selector would be preferable to an effects loop pedal (e.g. amp/next pedal to 'A', tuner to 'B'). The former (properly wired) grounds the audio chain whilst you're tuning to avoid any potential audio bleedover in some set-ups, the latter doesn't (but does still work). Arguably only a marginal benefit if you've already got a looper and would otherwise have to buy an A/B, but just a thought.
 
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Ranger Nessy said:
If you do decide to remove a tuner from the signal chain, an A/B selector would be preferable to an effects loop pedal (e.g. amp/next pedal to 'A', tuner to 'B'). The former (properly wired) grounds the audio chain whilst you're tuning to avoid any potential audio bleedover in some set-ups, the latter doesn't (but does still work). Arguably only a marginal benefit if you've already got a looper and would otherwise have to buy an A/B, but just a thought.
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The mute/kill switch pedal I had made (see message #11) uses 2 opamps to isolate the signal so there is no bleedover and it acts as a buffer as well.
 

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