Pretty sure it's very labour intensive from what he has said in the past.
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Does anyone make a B15 in a pedal format?
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Pretty sure it's very labour intensive from what he has said in the past.
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If people keep posting cool stuff that I literally can't buy I'm going to start throwing things
As some others have said the HX Stomp should get you what you’re looking for especially with the options to add a cab sim etc.
I’m pretty close to replicating my AO ultra by using a B15 patch with a little eq and cab sim on the Stomp. It’s a really flexible pedal.
If people keep posting cool stuff that I literally can't buy I'm going to start throwing things
That's what we do every day in the Broughton thread. It's not for everyone.
A big part of the b15 sound is a 15” speaker that was wound to sound good rather than handle tons of power. Sweet, natural sounding 15s. Any real solution to this quest is going to need a good speaker sim.
If people keep posting cool stuff that I literally can't buy I'm going to start throwing things
I wanted one of the hand pans but they have a ten year wait list to get in the lottery to maybe get the chance to buy one. Occasionally now they'll put up a few for $3500 that, if you're very quick on the email notification, you may be able to purchase. But it's whatever tuning the decide that you might like. So, I gave up on that idea. Yet I see near homeless looking people on the streets playing them when I was in Boulder. Then I learned about the Trustafarians. Ah. Lost all interest.
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Cool pedal, doesn't sound anything like what I'm looking for out of a B15 unfortunately.
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Ha! Same. "Those are really neat, I should buy one for my wife...they're HOW MUCH?!"
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Agreed, and fortunately I already have those aplenty...though the Torpedo CAB does seem worth a look anyway
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Definitely part of why I never visit that thread: there's enough strife and heartbreak in the real world as it is
Definitely part of why I never visit that thread: there's enough strife and heartbreak in the real world as it is
This thread inspired me. Just fired up the rig and played P-Bass > Triopticon > Power Stage > P-15. Then switched the Powerstage to the Archetype 2 knob Valve Boost. Thos are basically perfect bass tones.
If I knew they’d probably have to kill me.
Kidding aside, he’s a solo operation AFAIK. He’s built a reputation for still affordable boutique quality, and has his share of happy customers. I think a lot of it is he just doesn’t take on more work than he can reasonably handle. Or wants to.
FWIW, not everyone is in business purely to maximize their revenues. I know a luthier. True artist. He makes about 12 instruments a year, clears enough to live modestly but comfortably, and is very happy to do so. He could easily quadruple his income by hiring some skilled assistants and upping his output. But money isn’t what drives him so long as he’s comfortable with what money he gets.
So if you want one of his beautiful acoustic guitars, you need to be able to afford the prices he charges, and be willing to wait. And enough people do that he has zero incentive to change his way of doing business.
Like the saying goes: Yhe best job in the world is doing something you truly love. And once you have such a job, the single best way to have fun is to go to work.
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Most excellent definitions of ‘crushed dreams.”If people keep posting cool stuff that I literally can't buy I'm going to start throwing things
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If I knew they’d probably have to kill me.
Kidding aside, he’s a solo operation AFAIK. He’s built a reputation for still affordable boutique quality, and has his share of happy customers. I think a lot of it is he just doesn’t take on more work than he can reasonably handle. Or wants to.
FWIW, not everyone is in business purely to maximize their revenues. I know a luthier. True artist. He makes about 12 instruments a year, clears enough to live modestly but comfortably, and is very happy to do so. He could easily quadruple his income by hiring some skilled assistants and upping his output. But money isn’t what drives him so long as he’s comfortable with what money he gets.
So if you want one of his beautiful acoustic guitars, you need to be able to afford the prices he charges, and be willing to wait. And enough people do that he has zero incentive to change his way of doing business.
Like the saying goes: The best job in the world is doing something you truly love. And once you have such a job, the single best way to have fun is to go to work.
I was really just being facetious, though if people would still buy them at double the current cost with a lengthy wait I can't see why you wouldn't at least open the waiting list again.
Someone like Jule Potter, whose work I deeply admire, fits the exact mold you described above.
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So did a quick A/B of the Shaw Tube Injection and the Broughton P-15 to compare the extent to which I could get the tube to break up.
I played at low/moderate volume using a passive bass into a pedal EQ into a VCA compressor into the preamp to a class D power amp.
For the Shaw, I had the pad wide open and the volume on full, bass and treble at noon to 1:00. I did not hit it with crazy loud volume, but it did get a strong clean signal. I could not get the Shaw to break up, as I understand that term. That doesn't mean it didn't sound great, or that I couldn't use the fat switch and different mid settings to create more gain and tonal excitement, harmonic content, whatever you want to call it. Just not tube break up that, when things go right, you can try to control with your playing style. One thing to note is that the Shaw is not Baxandall-based, so it has less of an Ampeg tonal vibe to it to my ears (not worse, just different).
In comparison, I could easily get the P-15 to break up by turning the volume to about 3:00 and beyond. I won't go into the details of how it breaks up because, understandably, that will just waste your time and patience. But if it makes you feel any better, to my ears it too ultimately lacks what the interaction of power tubes brings to the table.
I'd talk to Shaw about your goals and see if his regular Tube Injection, or perhaps an easily modified one, would fit the bill for you. He and Josh seem to be the builders of what you're looking for. You could also try talking to the folks at 65Amps (in LA) and see what they might come up with. Their 60 watt Apollo is B-15 inspired and very nice (and also discontinued). Give a shout if you're in the Bay Area and want to check something out.
I played at low/moderate volume using a passive bass into a pedal EQ into a VCA compressor into the preamp to a class D power amp.
For the Shaw, I had the pad wide open and the volume on full, bass and treble at noon to 1:00. I did not hit it with crazy loud volume, but it did get a strong clean signal. I could not get the Shaw to break up, as I understand that term. That doesn't mean it didn't sound great, or that I couldn't use the fat switch and different mid settings to create more gain and tonal excitement, harmonic content, whatever you want to call it. Just not tube break up that, when things go right, you can try to control with your playing style. One thing to note is that the Shaw is not Baxandall-based, so it has less of an Ampeg tonal vibe to it to my ears (not worse, just different).
In comparison, I could easily get the P-15 to break up by turning the volume to about 3:00 and beyond. I won't go into the details of how it breaks up because, understandably, that will just waste your time and patience.
But if it makes you feel any better, to my ears it too ultimately lacks what the interaction of power tubes brings to the table. I'd talk to Shaw about your goals and see if his regular Tube Injection, or perhaps an easily modified one, would fit the bill for you. He and Josh seem to be the builders of what you're looking for. You could also try talking to the folks at 65Amps (in LA) and see what they might come up with. Their 60 watt Apollo is B-15 inspired and very nice (and also discontinued). Give a shout if you're in the Bay Area and want to check something out.
- Nov 7, 2012
- 8,590
- 14,890
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- Endorsing Artist: Dingwall-Fender-Bergantino-Dunlop-Tech 21-Darkglass-Nordstrand
So did a quick A/B of the Shaw Tube Injection and the Broughton P-15 to compare the extent to which I could get the tube to break up.
I played at low/moderate volume using a passive bass into a pedal EQ into a VCA compressor into the preamp to a class D power amp.
For the Shaw, I had the pad wide open and the volume on full, bass and treble at noon to 1:00. I did not hit it with crazy loud volume, but it did get a strong clean signal. I could not get the Shaw to break up, as I understand that term. That doesn't mean it didn't sound great, or that I couldn't use the fat switch and different mid settings to create more gain and tonal excitement, harmonic content, whatever you want to call it. Just not tube break up that, when things go right, you can try to control with your playing style. One thing to note is that the Shaw is not Baxandall-based, so it has less of an Ampeg tonal vibe to it to my ears (not worse, just different).
In comparison, I could easily get the P-15 to break up by turning the volume to about 3:00 and beyond. I won't go into the details of how it breaks up because, understandably, that will just waste your time and patience.
I'd talk to Shaw about your goals and see if his regular Tube Injection, or perhaps an easily modified one, would fit the bill for you. He and Josh seem to be the builders of what you're looking for. You could also try talking to the folks at 65Amps (in LA) and see what they might come up with. Their 60 watt Apollo is B-15 inspired and very nice (and also discontinued). Give a shout if you're in the Bay Area and want to check something out.
Much appreciated insight my friend, and thank you.
