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Does Fender Owe Me a New Neck?

#81
WoodyG3 said:
I'm pretty sure Bogolation has too many scruples to sell something he feels is defective.

That said, I doubt there will be a problem with this neck. Once upon a time I worked in a furniture factory, and this looks like a pretty stable piece of wood to me.

In any event, I wouldn't let the bass just sit. Play it, man! :D

Bongolation, I hope this will work out to your satisfaction one way or the other.
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Maybe I didn't make myself clear. What I ment was as it stands now there is nothing wrong with the neck another person may say "No big deal I want the bass" that way Bongolation doesn't have to bother with a neck that might go bad in the future. I could be wrong but I don't think Fender will replace a neck based on appearance.
 
#82
What I don't quite get is why Fender would owe you a new neck unless there was something wrong with the old one? Just because it's cut a certain way, or the grain looks funky doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. Just the potential is possibly there? As long as the neck is currently sound I wouldn't think you'd have a case.
 
#83
if you don't like it.. trade/sell it..

1) straight grain, etc.. = BS... look at all the figured woods.. i.e. flame/quilt/birdseye necks..

2) if your neck is defective.. i.e. twisted, warped.. YES, Fender would owe you a neck within the warranty period.. the neck is not defective if there *could* be a future problem in 20 years..

3) if you don't like it.. get rid of the bass, or replace the neck and sell the one that's on it..
 
#84
Sooo you have a neck with some grain you dont like. You have now been told by at least two builders it wont affect the neck. And I mean it in the best possible way but...do you really know what your talking about? All signs point to no. I'm really not meaning to sound rude, but apologies if it seems that way.

Judging if a neck is going to twist or warp by grain defects as minor as this (if it could be called defects) just isnt fair. It sounds like you are running away with a little bit of fact which someone told you could happen, with limited experience to back it up.

Posting a thread like this and expecting people to know what your talking about, without first telling what you think isnt a good idea. And it make even less sense when you yourself arent too well informed. Worse still is pretending you are. Again thats not an insult, just an explanation for the replies you have been receiving.
 
#85
muzikman7 said:
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. What I ment was as it stands now there is nothing wrong with the neck another person may say "No big deal I want the bass" that way Bongolation doesn't have to bother with a neck that might go bad in the future. I could be wrong but I don't think Fender will replace a neck based on appearance.
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I see what you mean, and I agree on all counts! :)
 
#87
Bongolation said:
Well, at least you admit it. :rolleyes:

I assumed people here understood this stuff better...jeeze.
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But you knew this from the moment you saw the bass, huh??

I suspect you had no idea what "crotch wood" was until you showed the bass to someone a year after you bought it. Then, when this genius put this idea in your head, you started to panic.

I suggest you tone down the smug sarcasm, as this whole thing doesn't make you look very smart.
 
#89
Bongolation said:
When there is a knot or a flaw or any substantial degree of grain irregularity in an otherwise straight-grained neck, the neck will eventually start to move in different directions at that point as it ages, resulting in a warp, bend or twist.
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so you put it away for a year and then decide to take care of it?
 
#90
Now this is crotch wood!
crotch_bass.jpg

Sorry I couldn't resist.

Dirk
 
#92
Personally, I would be disappointed if I bought an MIA online and the neck had grain like that, for the very reason you have stated several times.

But the graphite "should" prevent any problems, or at least make it no more likely to warp than any other neck. I have heard of MIA necks warping, though, but I don't know what the grain was like.

And yes, the grain is important. Just because it is shaped the same doesn't make it the same as other necks. Wood is organic and that grain represents areas of strength and weakness.

I would probably play it for a while, and if I didn't grow to love it... I would eventually find something better & I would trade it then.

I don't get why so many responded like you don't have a right to ask a question, or was immoral by putting it aside for a year. That blows. :hmm:
 
#93
THand said:
I don't get why so many responded like you don't have a right to ask a question, or was immoral by putting it aside for a year. That blows. :hmm:
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Blame it on the OP. His replies make him appear like an obnoxious know-it-all. Had he wanted to avoid scalding replies, he would have phrased his question as follows:

"Hi. I bought a Fender with a neck that has what I'm told is 'crotch wood'. Do you think this is in fact 'crotch wood', and should I worry about the neck warping in the future?"

Instead he chose a different tack, and received replies in kind.









By the way - does anyone really believe the OP purchased the bass, put it away for a year, and then pulled it out and decided to complain about it?
 
#94
smcd said:
By the way - does anyone really believe the OP purchased the bass, put it away for a year, and then pulled it out and decided to complain about it?
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Based on previous encounters, yes, I do.

He buys alot of gear, and alot of it gets packed away for a year or more, IIRC. If he couldn't send it back, I can see him putting it aside until the mood hit him to deal with it, and decide what, if anything needed to be done. Again, IIRC, he has plenty of nice gear to play. He's not a "one bass and maybe a backup" kind of guy, IMO. ;)
 
#95
Since it appears you aren't solely dependent on that bass, send it back to Fender with a concise explanation of your issue and let them decide. My dealings with Fender, while very slow and drawn out, have always been settled to my satisfaction.

On a side note, maybe somebody would be willing to trade you necks or this might be a good platform for you to mod to your specifications.
 
#98
Hahaha, people should read the thread. Fender made a boo boo when making this bass - The neck is made from crap wood that basically will warp to a permanent unplayable state unless you reinforce it; even then its stability is not certain since the wood wants to warp at that specific point. It may be fine now, but even if you kept it in perfect condition, it will probably need to be replaced eventually. The grain doesn't run the full length of the neck, so this essentially has the structural stability of a frankensteined neck made from two pieces of wood with unmatched grain patterns joined at the 5th fret.

If you bought this new and it's an American Standard, then yes, you should complain. Whether you get anything out of it, who knows. I would assume this falls short of their quality standard, so you should at least push for a new neck.
 

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