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Does Size Matter?

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#42
Yeah just stick with the head you have and get a 2x12
And if that's not enough you can add another matching 2x12

And I'm sure lots of people really love markbass :( but my lovely opinion is they are annoying. I've run countless solid state and tube heads into my 810

And both times I've used a markbass head. I found the eq annoying the sound annoying and spending way more time than needed fiddling with knobs to get a straight forward tone. And then the glorious reward was overheating both of them midway in the sets I played. They are definitely overheating buckets of #### at 4ohms
 
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A GK head (owned MB500 and 800) allows you to choose your cabinet. After dozens of shows I can tell you that GK heads sound great with a whole lot of different cabinets.
Ampeg, EBS, Orange to mention few.
Searching for your sound testing different sizes and brands will be a funny way to experiment
 
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agedhorse said:
I would recommend going out and trying a variety of newer generation cabinets and see how you like them.
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^this^

After basically not playing for ten years, i started back and had no choice but to downsize, which was how i came to TB. LSS i bought a combo that was highly recommended and while it was a well built unit with plenty of tone shaping capability, it was just too mid forward for my taste so i returned it and started trying some of the things that didn't really exist in the mainstream when i was playing all the time. I settled on a 500W head that's two ohm capable and a couple of 112 cabinets. It's easy to move, i can only take one cab if that's all i need, and the amp handles one or both cabs with equal ease. My goal was something i could schlep on my own that sounded good and covered most of what i do, and my current rig fills that need. I've still got a couple bigazz rigs if that's what's called for but i use them so rarely wifey has drafted my old 215 for coffee table duty in her movie room.
 
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You can get a lot more SPL into 100 lb. now than you could in the Henry 8x8 days. Going neo, that's something like 3 2x10s, or 2 2x12s. A 4x10 runs in the 60 lb. range.

4x10 or an efficient 2x12 is the least I'd run on an outdoor gig (or large stage) especially with no FOH support. I did an outdoor gig last Sunday (PHX Rock 'n' Roll Marathon) with 4x10 and 600w only, and it was enough to cover our part of the route with careful EQ. I've had other outdoor gigs with FOH support where the stage volume was high enough that I wished I'd brought another 4x10 so I wasn't beating the first 4 so hard.

I got stuck once with 2x10 outdoors in a trio with no FOH support (my other choice was the "backline", a blown BA115) and while I was able to pull it off, I was just lucky to have a back wall (boundary effect) and not blow up the cabinet. Not recommended.
 
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Speaking of size. Has anyone tried or care to try Phil Jones? I could never afford it but the new "The Roadcase" looks intriguing.

Never the less, I will be doing much contemplating and testing in my near future. So far, with all y'alls input, I'm leaning towards keeping my 700rb and getting a couple different cabs to be able to customize for the venue.
 
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If you like your 700RB head, get a GK Neo 212 cab. If you need more, get a second cab. I downsized to a GK MB212-ii combo a couple years back and have been gigging with it ever since. We always have PA support and a dedicated soundman, so my 212 is just MY monitor. That being said, it's always enough. I've never needed more even on big outdoor stages or in big clubs.
 
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I went from a 4x10 to 2 2x10's to 1 2x10 to finally 2 1x12's. The 12's are lightweight, and the better ones out there handle a lot more power than you would expect and there are a ton of options out there for them. A buddy of mine runs a GK Class D into 2 Harte 1x12's that have a switch for either 4 or 8 ohms on each speaker. I used Eden and now DNA speakers. The DNA's can handle 450 watts per speaker. I agree, keep the head and match it with some lighter cabs.
 
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Givati said:
Update for y'all.
I pulled the trigger on a used Gallien-Krueger Neo 112-II 1x12. I'll need a second cab eventually. I figure a second 112.
What about a 212? Will my 700rb handle that?
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You and you're 700 will be very happy with any combination of those cabs. The single 112 will handle small and some medium indoor events. For larger gigs, two 112's may surprise you even on an outdoor stage. Adding a 212 along with your 112 also provides a very flexible modular solution set.
 
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Aguilar has a 4x10 that weighs 49lbs. Bass Boom Cabinets handle great wattage, are light, and have a small footprint. It's not the size it's the science and mojo these days. Still I love playing through my Tecamp L610 it just does things my Tecamp M212 (47lbs) can't. There are many small and light weight cabs that can do the job
 
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Personally, I'd start with the cabs (although I remember the Henry the 8s as being a fantastic cabinet). The difference in lugging a solid state head and a micro head isn't that big of a deal, but moving a couple small cabs vs one really big one is huge. I've got a GK MB500 and Neo 112 for my current main set up (I'm not gigging ATM, and currently working on a piano/bass drums thing, so I don't need a ton of volume). I think, assuming you have backline support at gigs, that either a 212 or 2 112 cabs would be plenty for about any gigging or rehearsal situation. The GK Neos are a ton of bang for the buck, although if I had an unlimited budget, I'd probably go for the Genzler cabs (the 112 with the 3s is magic) or Bergantino. At any rate, you could power any of those just fine with the head you have now. Or, if you really wanted to go small, you could get a micro head of some sort. The GKs are great (especially bang for the buck) although from what I've played and heard, the Genzler Magellen would be my favorite class D head these days
 
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BassmanPaul said:
The actual thread title we should leave to our wonderful sisters of the bass to answer. ;)

Oh dear! I’m being rude again! LOL

Edit: But I see I’m not alone in this! :D
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And so I left this thread alone, until now. I enjoy authoritative high fidelity reproduction where I have control over the frequency modulation. This is how I select my rig.
 
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