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Don't like PJ's?

Apr 11, 2005
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Plymouth NC
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Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
Here's why I do and don't care if you don't:

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Actually, I just wanted an excuse to post some new glamour shots of some of my basses. But since we're here, I've noticed for the past few years that the venerable PJ combination has been slammed for being neither fish nor fowl, and I am here to say that it is, indeed, both fish and fowl.

Let's address the most common complaints:

---It doesn't sound as good when you solo the P pickup vs not having the J on a straight-up P Bass. 100% myth, poppycock, balderdash, and bovine waste products. If a $100 SX PJ with the P soloed can sound the same as a $100 SX P as long as they have the same strings, then there is no reason every bass in the world can't have PJ's that sound the same as a regular P when the P's soloed. I used to have sonic proof of this, but it got lost in a computer crash a few years ago.

---You don't get the best of both worlds with a PJ. OK, so let's assume the sound is so different that you'd rather stick with the J. Fine by me. But the sound is not completely different by any means. I've played plenty of Jazz basses and basses with J pickups in my day and I'm well familiar with what a typical Jazz sounds like. It's close enough for the few times that I go for a J sound that I'm not sweating what little difference there is in a good balanced set of PJ's. Throw pickups in there willy-nilly, sure, it probably won't sound all that great. Just might, though.

And to reverse the situation, a good J with the neck pickup soloed may not sound identical to a good P, but it will do a convincing job as well. I have a preference for a good split P pickup in that position, but I've heard plenty of convincing P sounds out of J's. The first Precisions are single coils, too, and I never heard anyone complain that they don't sound like P's.

---60 cycle hum or whatever frequency it is in your country. Can happen, but only on rare occasions is it an issue you can't do anything about. Many bass and guitar players use single coils with no hum problems all over the world. Granted, I prefer hum-cancelling pickups for both the P and the J, but to say that it can't work because the P's a humbucker and the J is single coil is myth.

So that's why I made PJ's my jam...preferring the split P neck pickup as my main sound, but needing a more scoopy J sound on occasion. And I get it, too, and any complaints that it doesn't sound like a real J are just nitpicking.
 
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I don’t get the issue. You can use the Jazz pickup if you want. You can turn it off and go straight P if you wish. Don’t understand why a few really don’t like the PJ, unless they don’t understand wiring real good and feel driven to resolder their harnesses every six months. Yeah. Maybe that’s it.

That being said, I don’t care for the PJ OR the P, I just never liked the body shape or how it hangs on me. If I gotta wear an FSO, it’ll be a Jazz.
 
Yes, but the best of the bunch is missing the J pickup.
In the owner's opinion, the best is a dead heat between the three black ones, with the Hammersmith mostly favored because it only weighs 7 3/8 lbs. The seafoam bass actually weighs slightly less, but it's a cheapo body and neck and kind of feels like it.
 
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I like my PJ for sounding exactly what it is: a Yamaha BB. It never sounds like a P, and if it can sound like a J I neither know nor care. Both pickups on full, it sounds like itself and that's wonderful :thumbsup:

And because it's incapable of sounding remotely like a P, I had an excellent reason for buying one of those, too :woot:
As a Yamaha endorser, I approve :D What model is it? Mine's a cheapo BB235 that I'm putting in new pickups to make it sound more Fendery. It does have a really good sound as is, but I would prefer it be closer to my others. But EMG refuses to make a 5-string passive PJ set that sounds like Geezers so I'm going with the Duncan SPB1/Apollo combo.
 
Love the tonal options of a PJ. P goodness with that J burp and high mids is just perfect to my ears. That said, I really don't like the look of a precision with a J in the bridge.
A perfectly valid reason for not doing it, way more valid than the usual reasons people use for bagging on them.
 
Ah don't get me wrong, I don't care enough about the looks to not do it! :D
But it can come in some other form...

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Almost talked myself into a Talman shorty like that, but bailed when I heard the JMJ Mustang was coming out in black. Then I bailed on that when Covid hit.