I'm a big fan of Chaman's playing! His Jamerson inspired work on Auger's 'Happiness Heartaches' album with Lenny White is outstanding. Like Rauch, Chaman is another one of the great overlooked 70's players.
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Doug Rauch
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I'm a big fan of Chaman's playing! His Jamerson inspired work on Auger's 'Happiness Heartaches' album with Lenny White is outstanding. Like Rauch, Chaman is another one of the great overlooked 70's players.
Check out "Got The Feeling" from Jeff Beck's Rough & Ready; very Jamerson-esque...in parts.
You can listen to some tracks of those Hummingbird albums on youtube with Clive Chaman on bass (some tracks written by him), most of the other guys(Max Middleton, Bernard Purdie, Bob Tench) also played with Beck. You can check out the Brian Auger concert at "Wolfgang's Vault", nice bass solo by Chaman on BRAIN DAMAGE.
You can search on some blogs for the David Bowie concert (soundboard) from September 5th 1974 in the Universal Amphitheater in LA featuring Doug Rauch and Greg Errico.
Though not similar in style, I think Chaman and Rauch had a similar approach in bass playing, both very good in jammin', having a loose but groovy style. If you check out the songs "Attitude" by the Giants (with Rauch on bass, you can check it out on Greg Errico's myspace site) and "Badness" by Morrissey-Mullen (with Chaman on bass), you can find some similarities.
You can search on some blogs for the David Bowie concert (soundboard) from September 5th 1974 in the Universal Amphitheater in LA featuring Doug Rauch and Greg Errico.
Though not similar in style, I think Chaman and Rauch had a similar approach in bass playing, both very good in jammin', having a loose but groovy style. If you check out the songs "Attitude" by the Giants (with Rauch on bass, you can check it out on Greg Errico's myspace site) and "Badness" by Morrissey-Mullen (with Chaman on bass), you can find some similarities.
Auger is a bad dude!! Love his playing.
All this talk about Rausch makes me wanna bust on my McLaughlin/Santana album.
All this talk about Rausch makes me wanna bust on my McLaughlin/Santana album.
To me Doug was truly ahead of his time being no one really approched the bass like he did until Victor Wooten. Can't believe he died in 79. I can't think of another bassist at that level who is so unknown to the bass community. Yes there are great great bassist but he is so unknown. That double thumpin he did back then is so original.
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I had a correspondence with Doug's cousin a while back due to a posting on The Bottom Line. Doug apparently battled depression most of his life and that aggravated his drug use. He was also a brilliant mathematician.
I saw him in 1976 with George Duke/Billy Cobham and he was amazing. I think he picked up what Larry Graham was doing (Larry was also an Oakland guy) and ran with it. I love his playing on Santana's Borboletta as well. The other bassist on there is Stanley Clarke-not too shabby, Carlos!
I saw him in 1976 with George Duke/Billy Cobham and he was amazing. I think he picked up what Larry Graham was doing (Larry was also an Oakland guy) and ran with it. I love his playing on Santana's Borboletta as well. The other bassist on there is Stanley Clarke-not too shabby, Carlos!
What posting? Is that a bass forum of some kind?
I love his playing on Santana's Borboletta as well. The other bassist on there is Stanley Clarke-not too shabby, Carlos!
But Doug doesn't play on "Borboletta", it's David Brown and Stanley Clarke. He has only a writing credit for "Flor De Canela".
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You're right-I was just going from the mp3 downloads, having not had the physical disc since 1992 or so. I checked www.allmusic.com and David Brown is listed on the credits.
Do a search for The Bottom Line and you'll find it-it's another bass forum that dates back to the dial-up days of the '90s.
Probably the best recorded DR is on Lenny White's Venusian Summer project.
Do you mean this:
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Couldn't find anything about Rauch using the search.
There's also this:
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You might be right.
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This thread has got me digging out 'Caravanserai'.
DR is a very under-rated player.....totally agree about 'LDS' as well, always loved that record.
Until I read this thread, I also had no idea he had died, and back in '79.
Real shame, especially after reading on TB recently about David Brown, another great Santana bass player who went off the rails.
DR is a very under-rated player.....totally agree about 'LDS' as well, always loved that record.
Until I read this thread, I also had no idea he had died, and back in '79.
Real shame, especially after reading on TB recently about David Brown, another great Santana bass player who went off the rails.
b.-14 Sept. 1950
d.-23 April 1979 from drug overdose in San Francisco. All his info can be found in Wikipedia.com
d.-23 April 1979 from drug overdose in San Francisco. All his info can be found in Wikipedia.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnpQo3hYYYI
Two songs from the album "Music" (1970). Music was a band featuring Buzzy Linhart on vocals, guitar and vibes, Doug Rauch on bass, Doug Rodrigues on lead guitar and John Siomos on drums.
"Don't You Know" is actually "Mother's Red Light" which features Rauch also on lead guitar plus some stellar bass work.
Two songs from the album "Music" (1970). Music was a band featuring Buzzy Linhart on vocals, guitar and vibes, Doug Rauch on bass, Doug Rodrigues on lead guitar and John Siomos on drums.
"Don't You Know" is actually "Mother's Red Light" which features Rauch also on lead guitar plus some stellar bass work.
The first time I saw Doug Rauch was at a music store (Don Weir's) on Columbus St (ave?) in San Fransisco in 1973. I was a teenager looking at bass's and I over heard Doug trying out a Mutron phase shifter. I stopped what I was doing and went over to check out this wild bass playing I heard. I didn't have the Welcome album yet, so I didn't know what DR looked like. I was completely in awe of his playing that was as non-pedestrian as it gets. He was so locked in to what he was doing that I didn't want to bug him, plus I was intimidated with that feeling of being in the presence of greatness.
I saw Santana at Winterland on New Years Eve of 1973-74, and immediately recognized DR as the bass player I saw at the music store. Doug has been my #1 bass influence ever since. I was kicking myself for not having the assertiveness to talk to him when I had the chance.
A couple months later, Santana and McLaughlin did a low-profile show at the Kabuki Theater in San Fransisco. I was stoked thinking that DR would be playing bass, but it turned out to be an acoustic show that had.....I think......Ralphe Armstrong on upright bass. I'm now a Ralphe fan too, but I was big-time disappointed that it wasn't Doug on bass.
I saw Santana again at Winterland the following September, but the lineup had changed and no Doug Rauch.......I'm thinking that Michael Shrieve was gone by then too, but one thing for sure was that the energy and vibe was definitely not what it was the New Years Eve before.
Fast Forward:
I came back off the road in the summer of 1980 and hooked up with a funk/fusion band in SF that was rehearsing in the basement of a warehouse near the 7th St Greyhound Station. I heard from musicians that would drop in, that this place was a previous hangout for DR when he was in town, but he hadn't been seen in quite a while. This was also the first time I heard that DR had a serious heroin addiction. Being I was still in awe of DR, this disclosure really bothered me.
It's interesting to me now that none of these players were even aware that he had OD'd in 1979. I didn't find out until YEARS later. It seems to me that the circumstances around his death was a well kept secret in the Bay Area among his close inner circle.
I saw Santana at Winterland on New Years Eve of 1973-74, and immediately recognized DR as the bass player I saw at the music store. Doug has been my #1 bass influence ever since. I was kicking myself for not having the assertiveness to talk to him when I had the chance.
A couple months later, Santana and McLaughlin did a low-profile show at the Kabuki Theater in San Fransisco. I was stoked thinking that DR would be playing bass, but it turned out to be an acoustic show that had.....I think......Ralphe Armstrong on upright bass. I'm now a Ralphe fan too, but I was big-time disappointed that it wasn't Doug on bass.
I saw Santana again at Winterland the following September, but the lineup had changed and no Doug Rauch.......I'm thinking that Michael Shrieve was gone by then too, but one thing for sure was that the energy and vibe was definitely not what it was the New Years Eve before.
Fast Forward:
I came back off the road in the summer of 1980 and hooked up with a funk/fusion band in SF that was rehearsing in the basement of a warehouse near the 7th St Greyhound Station. I heard from musicians that would drop in, that this place was a previous hangout for DR when he was in town, but he hadn't been seen in quite a while. This was also the first time I heard that DR had a serious heroin addiction. Being I was still in awe of DR, this disclosure really bothered me.
It's interesting to me now that none of these players were even aware that he had OD'd in 1979. I didn't find out until YEARS later. It seems to me that the circumstances around his death was a well kept secret in the Bay Area among his close inner circle.
Cool....I love to hear anything or story DR related, as to me, as a 35-year old in the UK, he's a name on a record cover.
I'd love to see some other photos of DR in action....been listening to 'LDS' a lot in the last week, great LP.
I'd love to see some other photos of DR in action....been listening to 'LDS' a lot in the last week, great LP.
Here's Phil Wain's blog article:
http://philwbass.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/doug-rauch/
Rauch Appreciation Group at Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38843099735&ref=ts
http://philwbass.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/doug-rauch/
Rauch Appreciation Group at Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38843099735&ref=ts
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Regarding percussive bass playing and timing, I believe that Doug Rauch is in his own league.
After all these years later, I'm still pained by his death at such a young age.
Back then I thought DR was into that wholistic, spiritual Sri Chinmoy anti drug life style that Carlos was so vocal about, so I was disappointed to discover he had a drug addiction.To watch him play, it didn't seem possible, but you can say the same thing about Hendrix, although I never saw Hendrix live.
I want to add to that another thing I admired about Doug was his stage presence. There was nothing pretentious about this guy. He was in his comfort zone of just being in the background and doing his thing. He drew attention away from others because his playing was so good. Total confidence without being pretentious.
I'll check out that DR Facebook appreciation page. I'm glad someone took the time to do this.
Regarding percussive bass playing and timing, I believe that Doug Rauch is in his own league.
After all these years later, I'm still pained by his death at such a young age.
Back then I thought DR was into that wholistic, spiritual Sri Chinmoy anti drug life style that Carlos was so vocal about, so I was disappointed to discover he had a drug addiction.To watch him play, it didn't seem possible, but you can say the same thing about Hendrix, although I never saw Hendrix live.
I want to add to that another thing I admired about Doug was his stage presence. There was nothing pretentious about this guy. He was in his comfort zone of just being in the background and doing his thing. He drew attention away from others because his playing was so good. Total confidence without being pretentious.
I'll check out that DR Facebook appreciation page. I'm glad someone took the time to do this.
