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Double Bass DPA 4099 vs AMT SP25B

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the bass mount wont likely be out till next summer and its just going to be a clip for the afterlengths. nothing worth waiting for in my opinion. as far as the adapter goes, id say its an easy choice. get the flat one and use an external hpf if need one. one that you can adjust any way you want, including turning it off if you want. many amps and preamps have them these days. what ive been using with really great success is an external phantom power supply that cost about $20, then into my fishman pro platinum with the xlr to 1/4" adapter. this works just fine for live playing (i woulnt record this way) and the fishman has a hpf in it. sounds really great this way. any kind of rig you have with an hpf in it would work, you just will have to get the 1/4' adapter and a phantom power supply (about $20).
 
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Barcza said:
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Yea no contest in my thoughts. That HP rolloff is way to profound for a low end junkie like me. I tend to roll away only as much as gets in the way on the bandstand. That HP filter chokes the crap out of the low end on those clips. Thanks so much for posting that. Sounds great btw. Nice playing.
 
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shwashwa said:
the bass mount wont likely be out till next summer and its just going to be a clip for the afterlengths. nothing worth waiting for in my opinion. as far as the adapter goes, id say its an easy choice. get the flat one and use an external hpf if need one. one that you can adjust any way you want, including turning it off if you want. many amps and preamps have them these days. what ive been using with really
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There are so many devices with flexible conduit these days, heck even the mighty brite lamps use it. How hard could it be to make an adaptor for the tailpiece with a run of that stuff. As I recall AMT sold a lot more mics once they started offering a tailpiece mount for the Bass Mic. Having something that only gets as far as the f holes won't work on my bass as the sweet spot is between the bridge and the end of the finger board. I'm pretty sure that's where many of us place our mic's. Flat is definitely the sound that I prefer. Ultimately, I would depend on the room however.

Ric
 
#146
Ric Vice said:
the sweet spot is between the bridge and the end of the finger board.
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I think with most mics my sweet spot is there too. With an underside of TP mount and a couple rubber bands under the bridge for support one could easily carry that mic with minimal sonic impact.

I think if they made that I'd have already bought one. I just don't want to spend $600 and have to irreparably modify it to use it. I've already got an AMT laying around I can't sell because of that. I don't need another.
 
#147
Uncletoad said:
I think with most mics my sweet spot is there too. With an underside of TP mount and a couple rubber bands under the bridge for support one could easily carry that mic with minimal sonic impact.

I think if they made that I'd have already bought one. I just don't want to spend $600 and have to irreparably modify it to use it. I've already got an AMT laying around I can't sell because of that. I don't need another.
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Uncle Toad

Maybe they would like us to suggest that to them. I think I'll give it a shot.

Ric
 
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shwashwa said:
the bass mount wont likely be out till next summer and its just going to be a clip for the afterlengths. nothing worth waiting for in my opinion. as far as the adapter goes, id say its an easy choice. get the flat one and use an external hpf if need one. one that you can adjust any way you want, including turning it off if you want. many amps and preamps have them these days. what ive been using with really great success is an external phantom power supply that cost about $20, then into my fishman pro platinum with the xlr to 1/4" adapter. this works just fine for live playing (i woulnt record this way) and the fishman has a hpf in it. sounds really great this way. any kind of rig you have with an hpf in it would work, you just will have to get the 1/4' adapter and a phantom power supply (about $20).
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hey man what phantom are you using and where did you get it and what is the voltage?

barcza: the mic sounds fantastic from your samples thanks...warm and natural
 
#149
sweetwater has a bunch of phantom power supplies. i think ART makes a cheap one. the one i use is made by carvin. it was the cheapest. i tried to link it but i dont see it on their site right now. its in the catalog though.

you can get the mic to the spot under the fingerboard with the dpa's clip, it will just take some creativity, and perhaps clipping it to the bridge. i didnt like that option for myself, but it can be done. i felt like it was picking up bridge noise though. get the H-clamp. rig it up like in my pic that i posted. you can get it anywhere on the bass with no problems that way.
 
#150
This mic is very interesting. I've been thinking of getting the AMT, but now I'm thinking of the DPA instead based on Barcza's samples, and the reviews I've been reading here.

I'm intrigued by what everyone is saying about how feedback resistant this mic is. My question is, is this mic usable with a bass amp, and is it actually loud enough to keep up with a drummer when you run it through a bass amp? I use a Markbass CMD102P combo, by the way, currently using a Rev Solo II.

Thanks to anyone who has tried this with an amp, and can respond with an answer.
 
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richhansen said:
This mic is very interesting. I've been thinking of getting the AMT, but now I'm thinking of the DPA instead based on Barcza's samples, and the reviews I've been reading here.

I'm intrigued by what everyone is saying about how feedback resistant this mic is. My question is, is this mic usable with a bass amp, and is it actually loud enough to keep up with a drummer when you run it through a bass amp? I use a Markbass CMD102P combo, by the way, currently using a Rev Solo II.

Thanks to anyone who has tried this with an amp, and can respond with an answer.
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With the flat adapter the mic sounds better, but with the stock adapter maybe this mic has higher gain before feedback than any other mic I try. Used the mic with HPF adapter in a pretty loud gig, in closed to the drums. I blended the mic with 20% Full Circle, it works in the house and the monitors to.
 
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Barcza said:
With the flat adapter the mic sounds better, but with the stock adapter maybe this mic has higher gain before feedback than any other mic I try.
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Which is not an effect exclusive to that mic and high pass filter but rather the use of a high pass filter on mics in live situations. Personally I'd rather have control over the takeoff point of that filter and the amount of rolloff than leave it to some preset number designed for instruments that don't live down in the frequencies I inhabit.

That rolloff curve for guitar or violin or just about anything that doesn't do much below 80hz is probably sufficient. It would be like starting the roll below 40hz for bass.

In practice I might roll at 30hz or 40hz or even as high as 100hz or 120hz depending on the situation. Having the filter be adjustable makes sense to me.
 
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Uncletoad said:
Which is not an effect exclusive to that mic and high pass filter but rather the use of a high pass filter on mics in live situations. Personally I'd rather have control over the takeoff point of that filter and the amount of rolloff than leave it to some preset number designed for instruments that don't live down in the frequencies I inhabit.

That rolloff curve for guitar or violin or just about anything that doesn't do much below 80hz is probably sufficient. It would be like starting the roll below 40hz for bass.

In practice I might roll at 30hz or 40hz or even as high as 100hz or 120hz depending on the situation. Having the filter be adjustable makes sense to me.
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Yes, an adjustable HP is the best way. I use the mic directly to PA and ask to the monitors. I am not taking any! What do you think what would be the feedbacksafe monitor place for this kind of hyper cardioid mic ? Most of the place where I play there's digital mixers with adjustable HP, but there's few situation where it isn't. I'm curios that is possible to fight with the feedback with a normal 2 or 3 band EQ.
 

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