It IS show bidness, whether you like it or not. Show bidness requires a SHOW, not just someone who can play well. Very few people don't play well in the wealthier reaches of show bidness. The show is what separates the pros from the hobbyists.
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Well, I suppose if your band brought nothing exceptional to the stage, just mediocre instrumental abilities, mediocre vocal abilities, mediocre or no original songs, mediocre or no lights or stage props, and no concept, then yea, I guess dressing everybody up could help you appeal to the fans that also enjoy fashion shows and posers.
But it won't help with me. I'd rather watch I guy in wrinkled street clothes blow me away with what he can do on his instrument any day of the week. To me, all the sequins and bolo ties you could get in 20 shopping malls won't impress me anywhere close to a great song that I can relate to.
Don't listen to what people say you should do.
Concentrate on achieving what you could do.
Edward G. said:It IS show bidness, whether you like it or not. Show bidness requires a SHOW, not just someone who can play well. Very few people don't play well in the wealthier reaches of show bidness. The show is what separates the pros from the hobbyists.
YES! It's hard to get that across to most people who want to play in bands, though.Individual, schmidual. Its a band.
I like it!It IS show bidness, whether you like it or not.
What the OP is complaining about is exactly what I HATE in all bands today.
If any of you have ever read my thread in the Band Management section you all know that I specifically state that a band should have a look, an image. In this case, the band you are in actually has an image. if the OP doesn't like it, as others have said, he is free to not be in the band.
I hate when I pay a cover charge to see a band and then its a bunch of guys who look like they just rolled out of bed and decided to jam together that night. I don't care if you feel that you aren't getting paid what you should by the bar owner. You agreed to play, for the pay. Respect ME, the audience, the guy who paid $10 to watch you.
For most shows my band has a "uniform", something I mandate based on the gig. Crap bar? Black T shirt, blue jeans, boots. Hired guns wear sunglasses or hats.
Stone Pony? Everyone wears black t-shirt, black jacket, black jeans, boots. Drummer doesn't have to wear a jacket.
Private Party? Think early Knack or Beatle-esque. Light gray suit, band wears black dress shirt with open collar, I wear white shirt with thin black tie.
Get it?
Cut me a break. I don't personally care what the OP normally wears in his life. As a band, you don't and shouldn't be the least common denominator of human life who plays with you. Individual, schmidual. Its a band. Want to be an individual? Go grab your acoustic guitar and play open mics.
My two pennies...
TBird1958 said:Very nicely said, I couldn't agree more.
Nobody ever forgets seeing my band play - ever.
We're not the greatest musicians, but you'll remember seeing us. Given a choice I'd much rather see a good entertaining band than some guy in rumpled clothes trying to impress me with his "spellbinding vitousity"
Being a musician in part means being an entertainer.
LOL! You are named right, because all I can say is "what a crock!"Well, I suppose if your band brought nothing exceptional to the stage, just mediocre instrumental abilities, mediocre vocal abilities, mediocre or no original songs, mediocre or no lights or stage props, and no concept, then yea, I guess dressing everybody up could help you appeal to the fans that also enjoy fashion shows and posers.
But it won't help with me. I'd rather watch I guy in wrinkled street clothes blow me away with what he can do on his instrument any day of the week. To me, all the sequins and bolo ties you could get in 20 shopping malls won't impress me anywhere close to a great song that I can relate to.
Don't listen to what people say you should do.
Concentrate on achieving what you could do.
tbird, do you drive to the gig in costume and load-in the same or do you do all the work then find your telephone booth to transform?

Depends on the show, several of the places we regularly play at on the road allow us to set up and sound check early in the day, so definately in my guy clothes - much easier.
For local shows I usually do my make up and hair at home after loading my car up and wear jeans and a blouse to load in at least and then change to stage clothes before the show.
Yes it's work, and it's totally worth it. I love playing the bass all dressed up in front of people.![]()
TBird1958 said:Depends on the show, several of the places we regularly play at on the road allow us to set up and sound check early in the day, so definately in my guy clothes - much easier.
For local shows I usually do my make up and hair at home after loading my car up and wear jeans and a blouse to load in at least and then change to stage clothes before the show.
Yes it's work, and it's totally worth it. I love playing the bass all dressed up in front of people.![]()
Mark not all of us have such nice legs to show off.....although i could use the wig :-(
TBird1958 said:
As others have said, it's about respecting your audience and creating a memorable experience for them. I sure remember the first show I went to: Alice Cooper in 1973. There were no blue jeans and t shirts onstage that night.
Well, I suppose if your band brought nothing exceptional to the stage, just mediocre instrumental abilities, mediocre vocal abilities, mediocre or no original songs, mediocre or no lights or stage props, and no concept, then yea, I guess dressing everybody up could help you appeal to the fans that also enjoy fashion shows and posers.
But it won't help with me. I'd rather watch I guy in wrinkled street clothes blow me away with what he can do on his instrument any day of the week. To me, all the sequins and bolo ties you could get in 20 shopping malls won't impress me anywhere close to a great song that I can relate to.
Don't listen to what people say you should do.
Concentrate on achieving what you could do.
My take on it is 'whatever the ladies like'. They're usually the ones that make you into a big deal.
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Gaius46 said:Take my word for it - the vast majority of most audiences doesn't care one whit for your level of musicianship. They just want to be entertained and a part of that means being visually appealing.
We dress generally alike but not identically. Bar gigs call for jeans and black shirts. Beach gigs are shorts and upscale parties suits (sans tie) for the guys and a dress of some sort for our female member.