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Drum rudiments for bass fingerings?

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ChunkyMunky

Sep 4, 2013
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#1
Another technique thread, ChunkyMunky? Jeeeeeeesh.

I was watching a John Patituci video and he very briefly mentions using drum rudimental sticking patterns as an exercise. Could anyone shed some light on it at all? I've heard about this concept once before but I was never quite sure what to make of it.

I'm assuming a paradiddle but with L and R being replaced with "i" and "m" looking something like this;

imiimimmimiimimm etc...

Thanks, all! :)
 
#3
Hello Chunky,..

Looks to me that he's are referring to the "p i m a" system from classical guitar studies.
It simply names the fingers thumb=p, index=i, middle=m and ring=a.
If you look at the paradiddle again you can read: index, middle, index, index, middle, index and so on...
It sounds cool and you can practice it everywhere.
 
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I've heard this mentioned for slap- Stu Hamm talked about translating drum patterns into slap patterns, like the paradiddle. So in that case it would be slap-pop-slap-slap-pop-slap-pop-pop.

Or, I was assuming you were meaning a right hand exercise. I guess it could be left hand as well- say 5th and 7 frets on one string '5-7-5-5-7-5-7-7'. Perhaps do you have a link to the video? I'm quite curious to see what was he saying now. ^_^
 
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It was really fun, and it was part of my job as an accountant. My fellow employees actually used to invite guests over to watch me use the 10-key. Pretty funny when I look back on it after all these years.
 
#9
Just about anything in bass that demands you "alternate" can be practiced using a drum rudiment book.

"Slap" on the R, "Pop" on the L.
Pick down on the R, up on the L
Pluck on the Root on the R, pluck on the Root + octave on the L (really good for getting better at octaves and string skipping!)
Just to name a few...
 
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I'm ressurecting this thread because I want to see if anyone has developed this any further. Or if anyone thinks that there is value in this.

I'm of the school that believes in strict alternation. So, I don't see sticking patterns aligning to the fingers of the right hand. But what about substituting different strings or intervals instead? What do you think?
 
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#13
A paraddiddle exercise for fingerstyle bass would require a certain pattern of crossing strings. See attached .PDF

Starting on measure 21, I've included a paraddidle exercise for fingerstyle. Note the string crossing pattern.

When I teach fingerstyle to a beginner electric bassist, I teach an alternating two-finger approach that includes "economy" finger racking when crossing strings down in pitch. Some players use a three finger approach.

From a pedagogical standpoint, you could certainly develop a series of exercises that draw upon drum rudiments for each bass technique (slap, fingerstyle, "Matthew Garrison technique").

The challenge would be to organize the material from easy to hard and then ponder how useful a slap technique based off a single flammed mill will be in your playing situation.
 

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To me drumming books also worked best in the slapping mode, if we are to seek the most direct possible "translation".
It could be interpreted as a tapping source too, if you are into that sort of thing (eg. RH taps and LH hammer-ons).
In view of the fingerstyle playing, I would tend to see it as a string crossing/interval exercise.
 

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