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Dual pickup P basses?

Something like this?

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That's the one!

Believe it or not, I think the one I saw also had two jazz pickups in the bridge position. Could be wrong about that (it's been quite a long time).

Any idea who the manufacturer is?
 
That's the one!

Believe it or not, I think the one I saw also had two jazz pickups in the bridge position. Could be wrong about that (it's been quite a long time).

Any idea who the manufacturer is?

Don't know who made it. The artist is Masayoshi Yamashita from the group Loudness. I can't find anything on his gear.
 
Lee Sklar. put an extra P-bass pickup on his early 60's Fender P-bass, the one he used on JT's Fire & Rain and a bunch of other hits. I'm pretty sure that's the bass he used on Billy Cobham's Spectrum album form the early 70's. He had installed the first series Bartolini pickups that were called HI-A.
Maybe someone has already said this: But the reason the Jazz pickup in the bridge is weaker is because it's a single coil pickup and the split P-bass pickup is actually a hummbucking pickup. So, installing a dual coil J-bass pickup in that position will cure that problem.
 
You guys are making the G.A.S. worse! lol.

Lan, the Fender Precision Elite II was the dual model in the early-mid 80s. Everyone I know that has played one said they were fantastic. I was not aware of the Gibson Signature Sklar...thanks for the info.

Tom...I wish I could've taken your bass off your hands....that is almost exactly what I have in mind (2 V/T pots from the looks of it).

The only other thing I'd do is wire in a 3 way toggle PUP selector switch (neck/both/bridge). That way, I could have instant tone/volume change for fills and runs. Blend pots don't work fast enough for my clumsy hands ;)

Cheers!

I remember in the early to mid-80's borrowing a Fender Elite II that was the walnut model with the gold hardware. The neck was kind of wide....but THE SOUND WAS UNREAL!!!! I've thought about that bass so many times over the years and have longed to recreate one with my own personal neck-width preferences, etc. Really a tremendous bass. Man...that bridge pickup was like a mega-piano-Greg Lake-John Entwistle sound. Amazing!

LouLoomis
 
Lee Sklar. put an extra P-bass pickup on his early 60's Fender P-bass, the one he used on JT's Fire & Rain and a bunch of other hits. I'm pretty sure that's the bass he used on Billy Cobham's Spectrum album form the early 70's. He had installed the first series Bartolini pickups that were called HI-A.
Maybe someone has already said this: But the reason the Jazz pickup in the bridge is weaker is because it's a single coil pickup and the split P-bass pickup is actually a hummbucking pickup. So, installing a dual coil J-bass pickup in that position will cure that problem.

My understanding is that the reason the Jazz pickup in the bridge is weaker is because there is less information to pick up in terms of string vibration in that position. That's why a Les Paul's humbucker in the bridge position is also weaker sounding, even if the same ohms as the neck. So the neck pickup must be made lower and the bridge higher (in terms of distance underneath strings) to compensate for this.

LouLoomis
 
i'm glad i stumbled on this thread! i have been tossing around a warmoth build like this myself. i just love the P sound and think it would be nice to have one by the bridge for variety. i was thinking a USA P pickup in the neck and a dimarzio model P on the bridge or maybe just a Hot alnico of some kind.

If you go P/J you might try a fralin P with a dimarzio model J---hot output and growly (at least on my bass). i think it would compete and blend with a standard P nicely.
 
I had one built by John Wymore (formerly of Black Rose Customs, now of wymore guitars) several years back with similar specs to what you mention - had a 1/4 pounder in the bridge position and a Duncan vintage in the neck.

The bridge pickup was anything but weak - had a nice throaty growl that complimented the thump of the neck pickup nicely. However, as time wore on I found myself soloing the neck pickup more and more. Not an issue with the sound, just my preferences.

I foolishly sold the bass a few years back, and have been unable to track it down. Would love to have it back again.

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This is like what i was picturing. What did you think of the sound with both pickups full on?
 
That's the one!

Believe it or not, I think the one I saw also had two jazz pickups in the bridge position. Could be wrong about that (it's been quite a long time).

Any idea who the manufacturer is?

Possibly Fender Japan from the '80's. The one I'm thinking about was a model that wasn't exported, and definitely had staggered P-pickups, but I don't think it was the same configuration. I might have pics of it at home; I'll post them later if I do.
 
Louloomis;
"My understanding is that the reason the Jazz pickup in the bridge is weaker is because there is less information to pick up in terms of string vibration in that position."

The two single coil pickups of a jazz bass are a balanced humbucker pickup when both at full volume. The two single coil pickups of a P-bass work the same way as a humbucker pickup, except one pickup is for the E&A Strings and the second pickup are for the D&G strings. Then when you turn the volume down on one of the Jazz pickups you get an un-balanced buzz or hum.
So when you add a single coil J-bass pickup to a two coil P-bass pickup they become unbalanced. And that is the reason the J-bass pickup is weaker sounding than the P-bass pickup in that situation.
But you can add a two coil J-bass pickup to a P-bass combination and correct that problem.
 
sick sick sick stuff. i'm jumbling around the idea of doing this mod to my MIM P-Bass. Ezbass also did this mod on his highway one and it looks sick! are the higher output pickups usually put nearest to the bridge? what do you guys prefer? anyways....i'm glad i found this thread!
 

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