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Dunkirk
- Thread starter Alkali Ike
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- Jan 1, 2011
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Christopher Nolan did something similar in Interstellar, deliberately burying some of the dialog under sound effects. In Dunkirk the noise of war plus English accents contributed to dialog intelligibility trouble for me too. But it still worked.
The entire movie was shot on large-format 65mm film. About 80 minutes of it was shot true "15-perf" IMAX. The film travels through the camera horizontally. The IMAX cameras are huge, bulky, and noisy. Shooting a commercial film in real IMAX is no trivial task.
An old closed film processing lab in the U.K. was brought out of mothballs to process the Dunkirk negatives. I think there's only one print-making lab left in the US that can make 70mm release prints.
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To me, IMAX, 3-D can detract from the essence of a film itself, although many movies in those formats are simply
vessels for high-energy effects, little or no substance intended.
My hearing prolly suffers, I actually didn't feel the noise was overwhelming the dialogue; at any rate, the noise of artillery, strafing and such is the sad truth as far as battle goes.
We saw the film in plain-jane 35mm, and in afterthought, the cinematography was one of the highlights of this film.
Amazing shots of the expanse of the coast; aerial shots that must have taken much effort to stage & film.
I say if this pic does not get nominated for at least several Oscars- Phooey on the Academy!
vessels for high-energy effects, little or no substance intended.
My hearing prolly suffers, I actually didn't feel the noise was overwhelming the dialogue; at any rate, the noise of artillery, strafing and such is the sad truth as far as battle goes.
We saw the film in plain-jane 35mm, and in afterthought, the cinematography was one of the highlights of this film.
Amazing shots of the expanse of the coast; aerial shots that must have taken much effort to stage & film.
I say if this pic does not get nominated for at least several Oscars- Phooey on the Academy!
The are not too many regular theaters that can still project 70mm. It is an awesome film format.
- Jan 1, 2011
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I saw it today on Imax, it was a bit loud but tolerable. My god the whole floor shakes with the bombs and strafing etc! I'm sort of turning into a history and war buff (not that I like war) lately. This was a great and memorable movie.
Christopher Nolan the director did a great job with the timelines the cinematography the acting the whole shebang. There was only one scene where I felt it was too fake and that was when there was a closeup of a Spitfire gliding to a landing. It was probably cgi. Most if not all the rest of the aerial combat was true to form old fashioned actual airplanes being filmed.
I'm glad this movie is doing so well at the box office as it might inspire a little more interest into history. WWII was truly horrific and this movie does start to scratch at the surface of it all. A good representation of the physical and social manifestations of this war.
Probably, there could have been a lot lot more bombs, machine guns, strafing and violence etc. I think there was something like 80,000 deaths at this evacuation. All was played down a bit I think as to not make it too intense.
My son however, who is 19 seems to have no interest in this movie despite my exhortations.
Go see it!
Christopher Nolan the director did a great job with the timelines the cinematography the acting the whole shebang. There was only one scene where I felt it was too fake and that was when there was a closeup of a Spitfire gliding to a landing. It was probably cgi. Most if not all the rest of the aerial combat was true to form old fashioned actual airplanes being filmed.
I'm glad this movie is doing so well at the box office as it might inspire a little more interest into history. WWII was truly horrific and this movie does start to scratch at the surface of it all. A good representation of the physical and social manifestations of this war.
Probably, there could have been a lot lot more bombs, machine guns, strafing and violence etc. I think there was something like 80,000 deaths at this evacuation. All was played down a bit I think as to not make it too intense.
My son however, who is 19 seems to have no interest in this movie despite my exhortations.
Go see it!
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- I never actually learned to play very well
From other reading, it appears that sound levels in IMAX theaters are dialed in and locked down by IMAX techs. The theater can't change the volume even if they want to.
Saw it on a date with my wife earlier this week. A great addition to landscape of WWII genre pieces, which I love. Appreciative of how intense scenes maintained the emotion (agree some were difficult), while they spared us the over the top movie blood and guts.
Most war movies move forward... attacking, conquering, you expect to win. This was unsettling how it almost moved backward, given the terrible situation these soldiers found themselves in.
I would love to go back to see it in Imax. Very much doubt my wife would go again - lack of understanding dialog (accents and background noise) and confusion over similar looking characters made it too hard for her to follow.
I think it's a love it or hate it film. I loved it and grateful the filmakers captured an oft overlooked story for a new generation (hopefully some will go see it).
Most war movies move forward... attacking, conquering, you expect to win. This was unsettling how it almost moved backward, given the terrible situation these soldiers found themselves in.
I would love to go back to see it in Imax. Very much doubt my wife would go again - lack of understanding dialog (accents and background noise) and confusion over similar looking characters made it too hard for her to follow.
I think it's a love it or hate it film. I loved it and grateful the filmakers captured an oft overlooked story for a new generation (hopefully some will go see it).
Can I please bring your attention to this: Does Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk ignore the role of the Indian army? - BBC News
It wasn't JUST the English servicemen that were trapped & rescued from Dunkirk, but Indian, Scots, Welsh, Irish, French, Belgian, Polish and many other nationalities that were overcome by the onslaught of the Third Reich.
Definitely want to see it sometime.
It wasn't JUST the English servicemen that were trapped & rescued from Dunkirk, but Indian, Scots, Welsh, Irish, French, Belgian, Polish and many other nationalities that were overcome by the onslaught of the Third Reich.
Definitely want to see it sometime.
See it, its impressive.
I don't think other nationalities were left out intentionally or ignored. Rather, the film chose to focus primarily on the British and then French troops for the scenarios in the picture.
The Allied forces throughout WWII I'm sure operated together when possible.
true...it gives no idea numbers were 80,000 killed in the evacuation
I am glad I saw it in 70mm and not IMAX
Why do you prefer 70mm? Imax was great; super clear cinema, really good sound as the floor actually vibrates and quite good stereo. The screen shape is good too, things don't appear flattened or weirdly stretched out.
Floor vibrating would cause pain in my leg....and people complained here that the explosions were so loud drowning out dialogue in IMAX
Perspective was great in 70mm...so nothing weird there or stretched out
When I have seen movies in imax I found it hard to know where my eye focus should be
maybe one day I could try it in Imax...bring my own ear plugs
I actually did bring my own ear plugs (the rubberized ones from walmart) used one for about 2 minutes and then decided that most of the super loud things were very much on the bass side of things; explosions were for the most part quite tolerable, some of the machine gun fire was pretty loud though.
I believe the movie was filmed in imax and also 70mm...unlike usual 35mm
so it is a beautiful sweeping perspective in 70mm....and was raved about...people come from far to see 70mm films...i did not know....but I now get it
