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Ebay Bass - Legal Issue???

#21
phillipkregg said:
No need for a lawsuit. Cease and desist letter should be enough.

Of course, I may be completely wrong and Yamaha may not have an issue with it at all.
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It has nothing to do with whether Yamaha has an issue with it, and everything to do with the fact that there would be no way to enforce any complaint against such a small-time Chinese manufacturer. A cease and desist letter would be laughed at, nothing more.
 
#22
Found a complete copy/clone site out of China that includes using Gibson, Ric, and Fender on their products. Link is on my home laptop(will repost when I get home).
Direct purchase from China?
Only done it with pickups so far(Gibson EB bass mudbucker clones for $29). Worth the $$$ at least on those.
 
#23
dakpluto said:
AKA, the pictured bass in the ad doesn't exist. Scam
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Did you even look at the seller's feedback or other auctions? 51 out of 52 people got guitars they were reasonably happy enough with that they left positive feedback.

I don't think that selling knock-offs is acceptable, and there are Spector, Fodera and Fender knock offs in his other auctions. But to call this auction a scam, and to say the basses don't exist is ridiculous. Ebay doesn't like it when you try to sell 50+ items that don't exist.
 
#24
MarTONEbass said:
Did you even look at the seller's feedback or other auctions? 51 out of 52 people got guitars they were reasonably happy enough with that they left positive feedback.

I don't think that selling knock-offs is acceptable, and there are Spector, Fodera and Fender knock offs in his other auctions. But to call this auction a scam, and to say the basses don't exist is ridiculous. Ebay doesn't like it when you try to sell 50+ items that don't exist.
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I didn't go thru the buyers in that seller's account, but I've seen many odd stuff that looks like the seller setting up lots of accounts and "buying" his items just to raise the positive feedback... Ya know, anything is possible! ;)
 
#26
phillipkregg said:
Ok, here is a no-name bass being sold on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Natural-Flamed-...60?pt=Guitar&hash=item19bf3ffed4#ht_833wt_735

Here's the image:
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And here, of course, is a Yamaha TRB 6:
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EDIT:

Here's an image from Yamaha's website:
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Here's the link to Yamaha's site:
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]


Anyone see a problem here?
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Sheesh I can't believe how shamelessly Yamaha ripped off that poor no-name bass. Yamaha is in trou-ble.
 
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#30
Wow, copies of gibson doubleneck with new color option of dark blue. And the really rare wooden color rickenbacker bass! For such low prices. Cant help but wonder what bodeis are made of. Solid wood, plywood? Prices are so low would try some of them out if they was carried at a store in my area but not willing to try em thru ordering one. Lol.
 
#31
bongomania said:
It has nothing to do with whether Yamaha has an issue with it, and everything to do with the fact that there would be no way to enforce any complaint against such a small-time Chinese manufacturer. A cease and desist letter would be laughed at, nothing more.
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I think it all depends on the company who holds the copyright.

I work as a software designer and I've been involved in small companies (with about 20 employees), to large government contracts and they have all aggressively protected their intellectual property.

For instance, I am currently doing work for a large (over 1000 employees) cleaning and restoration business that has a particular trademarked color scheme. A guy in Florida recently attempted to copy the color scheme onto a personal van and advertised himself with a similar name and provided similar services. Our company immediately had lawyers contact him and threatened to sue. Of course, he stopped.

That was just one dude in a van.

It all depends on the copyright holder and how aggressively they want to pursue things. And, of course, it depends on the regional laws involved. Like someone mentioned earlier copyright and trademark infringement laws could vary with the countries involved.
 
#38
mrtorian said:
Go out and fight crime instead. Localized vigilante justice=making an actual difference.
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Great plan - let me know how that works out for you.


Bijoux said:
hmmm...funny... I tried contacting the seller a while back, and I got an email from Ebay telling not to contact that seller. then they canceled his account, and I see he is back now under the same user name.... weird...
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Maybe it's not "vigilante justice", and it may have nothing to do with this thread, but I'm glad it's closed.

The only reason I posted this was because it really bugs me to see someone obviously trying to commit fraud and get away with it.
 
#40
I reported him....and wrote the seller. I said,

"Too bad the photo in your ad was taken right from Yamaha's web site and you did a poor job of photoshop the logo off: http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/Guitars/Product/Views/trb6pii_closeup.jpg

You have been reported to eBay!!!"

The seller wrote back with this BS,

"hi,friend:
i have no idea that it is yamaha, the picture is provided by my customer, and i have checked it is the other factory's picture, and i will remove the item immediately!
and welcome you to file more question;
regards"

SNAGGG!!!

Either he or eBay ended the listing!
 

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