http://www.yikers.com/video_judge_judy_vs_an_ebay_scammer.html
'Bout time some of these people get a little justice.
'Bout time some of these people get a little justice.
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Ebay Scammer gets her due!
- Thread starter Masher88
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technically..she didn't scam. Judge Judy was just being a bitch, a regular Judge would have thrown out the case, if she clearly stated in the auction it was a picture of two phones then that's the buyers problem. Auctions are legal contracts.
If i remember correctly the people who bought X-Box Boxes when the x-box first came out did not get refunds from paypal because the auction WAS properly represented.
If i remember correctly the people who bought X-Box Boxes when the x-box first came out did not get refunds from paypal because the auction WAS properly represented.
Yep, if you buy a picture of a phone, don't cry when you get a picture of a phone. Still, I don't thing it's right to take advantage of people's stupidity in this case...
Just a warning - the video is there, as advertised, but the page itself contains what looks like links to porn, and includes ads for Girls Gone Wild, and things like that. Just a warning.
Technically, she did scam. She mis-represented the item she was selling by stating that it weighed 4.90oz. Whether it was an auction for picture or not, it was completely mis-represented. To hide behind the defense of basically hiding it in the fine print still does not make it right. Then to further give negative feedback and state that she paid with fake funds also shows what a scam artist the cell-phone lady was.
It wasnt tho, the weight and stuff was listed as the specifications of the phone in the picture.
Im not saying its morally right, but if people are stupid enough to bid on things like that, then its thier fault.
That's the problem here. I don't think it was specifically stated that those were the specifications of that phone type, but rather the item that the person was bidding on. Then to place the contradictory statement that they are bidding on a picture of the phone is really where the misrepresentation comes in.
As far as the judgment, it would have been more fair for the people to get their money and court costs back. Also, I think ebay may have policies against such things, as well. This event and the xBox box auctions may have sparked that (I'm not sure about that, though, so don't quote me)
If you think the judge was out of line, your probably right. She is way over the top.
BUT these scammers need to be made examples of. They bring down the good system of online auction sites with their garbage ads and deceptive practices.
They don't need fines, they need a good flogging.
BUT these scammers need to be made examples of. They bring down the good system of online auction sites with their garbage ads and deceptive practices.
They don't need fines, they need a good flogging.
Right, if there was any doubt in your mind about something, like you saw something had the specifications, and then said that the auction was for a picture, would you blindly just bid on this item? I know i sure as hell wouldnt, if there was a slight hope it maybe wasnt a picture like it said in the auction, then you email and ask the seller, its not exactly a hard thing to do.
If there are stupid people there, they will be exploited, also, i agree, judge judy is a tad rediculous, and totally over the top, im pretty sure if it were a proper court she wouldnt be able to act in that manner.
My favorite part:
"She's lying! She's Nigerian!"
Do we really want to live in a world where this sort of scamming practice is legal? If a country allows this sort of trickery to occur, outside investment is discouraged; no one will trust people from a country where scams are legal.
For example, hardly anyone wants to do business with Nigeria. For the past year or so, I've been throwing any correspondence from Nigeria straight into the trash. That's unfortunate, because the handful of crooks in the Nigerian government have caused people like me to distrust anyone from that region. It's kind of funny seeing Craiglist ads with the disclaimer 'Nigerians need not apply.'
"She's lying! She's Nigerian!"
Do we really want to live in a world where this sort of scamming practice is legal? If a country allows this sort of trickery to occur, outside investment is discouraged; no one will trust people from a country where scams are legal.
For example, hardly anyone wants to do business with Nigeria. For the past year or so, I've been throwing any correspondence from Nigeria straight into the trash. That's unfortunate, because the handful of crooks in the Nigerian government have caused people like me to distrust anyone from that region. It's kind of funny seeing Craiglist ads with the disclaimer 'Nigerians need not apply.'
+ infinity. I'm sure I'll be doubting to do any potential business with some of people in this thread in the future, based on their stance here. That's unfortunate. There's trickery, then there's just plain wrong, and if you cannot recognise that, that's just plain sad.
That statement assumes the picture only "disclaimer" was clearly stated. See that caveat? "Clearly". How is burying such a statement in three paragraphs about "TOS" justifiable in any way shape or form?
Such an action is clearly a violation of the "spirit" of law/rules of eBay conduct.
To take the position that "these people got what they deserved" clearly indicates to me that, in your mind, the end justifies the means.
And that's fine by you? Again you assume that this auction was CLEARLY labeled as being for a picture only. I'd guess (based on the fact that they bid successfully on two and multi numerous scam auctions I've seen ) that it was NOT clearly labeled.
