Eden XLT410 or Ampeg HLF410

[4Strings71]

Hello fellow Bass friends

Just after some feedback if possible.

Anyone had experience in playing an Eden XLT410 or an Ampeg 410HLF.

Love to know your thoughts on what you think is a better all rounder of a stand alone 4 Ohm cab.

For the record, i use a GK700RB and a P-Bass

Cheers guys

 

[Rockin Mike]

The Eden sounds killer but it weighs a ton.
Don't know anything about the Ampeg.

 

[Nephilymbass]

I've used both but only owned the ampeg. The eden is a more modern sound great if you play funk or fusion but expensive. Ampeg is a rounder sound better suited for rock and metal. Personally I prefer the 410he and the 810e over the ported 410 because I prefer sealed cab designs. The 410hlf is really muddy sounding compared to the 410he. I have had no problem using the non ported ampeg cabs with 5 string and my 7 that goes even lower so I no longer buy into all the frequency rating talk that goes along with bass cabs.

 

[bgavin]

I have hands-on measurements of the D410-XLT, but only academic knowledge of the Ampeg.
The Eden is a strong midrange cabinet, with signficant rolloff in the low bass region.
The XLT midrange response cuts through a loud mix.

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This chart is a 1W/1M groundplane measurement.

I understand the Ampeg has a much more full bottom.
This makes the Ampeg more closely aligned with the Eden D410-XST, not the XLT.

My personal preference is a flat response cab that can be tailored to taste with tone controls or pedals. YMMV.

 

[bb03]

If you decide to go the Eden route, you might want to check out these:

http://www.xsonics.com/

Your back will thank you.

 

[Gearhead17]

For a good stage monitor, the Eden 410XLT will cut through the mix right away. It's growly, plenty of definition, and great midrange content. There is a decent amount of low end here too.

The Ampeg 410hlf is loaded with a TON of low end. Most cabs can not put out what this cab can in low end below 100hz. However, I found the cabinet to be useless in a live setting and preferred the midrange growl of the 410XLT to cut through on stage.

It comes down to the sound you want on stage. The two cabs are in different tone worlds. Both could do well for you though.

 

[popgadget]

The 410HLF is generally known for its strong bottom end. It goes noticeably lower than the sealed cabs like the 810e.

 

[pineapplerobot]

The Ampeg is DEEP. I've not heard a cab with as much low end, I know that sounds kind of weird but compared to any 4x10 I've played, with the same eq on my head, this thing is deep. I love it, but it's something to keep in mind.

 

[JimmyM]

The Ampeg is DEEP. I've not heard a cab with as much low end, I know that sounds kind of weird...

Not to anyone who's heard it. Low end response has zip to do with speaker size, and this cab proves it.

 

[foxbass58]

I'm with Gearhead17 on this.
I've played many stages with supplied Ampeg backline and on occasion I've been able to tell the engineer that I'll be putting my WT800 on top.
I agree that generally Ampeg cabs are known for huge low end, but lets not forget the kind of ropey stages most venues have. More often my Eden rig (410xlt/201xlt) punches through the mix happily and I can pitch every note. I play 5 strings and have no trouble with low B definition.
If you just wanna shake the room go for the Ampeg, if you prefer the drummer actually hears you instead of thinking its an earthquake, Eden.
JMHO but borne of years of having to use rented backline.

 

[Bassmann1968]

D410XLT cuts it.
If you need more low end and definition go for the XST.

 

[4Strings71]

Thanks all, great feedback on two awesome Cabs!