everyone is always saying that your gonna hurt yourself doing this, or this is really bad for you, but as long as you are getting SOME nutrition, and that you dont NOT EAT for too long, you will be perfectly fine, and several pounds lighter too.
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Effective diet? Dont eat!
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He's not starving, he's cutting his portions. We don't know how much he was eating before he cut portions.
apparently if you stop eating completely your metabolism gets slower and you gain weight easily...
the best way (for me at least) is to count calories... yeah real drag
anyways the first day you eat a 1000 second 800 third 400 fourth 200 and you go back to a 1000. it sort of tricks your body into continuing burning fat at the same rate while cosuming a lot less. but it shouldn't be done for too long. not surprisingly you need like 2000 calories a day to mantain a healthy lifestyle.
yeah i'm proof that girls really do think about their weight... a lot.
the best way (for me at least) is to count calories... yeah real drag
anyways the first day you eat a 1000 second 800 third 400 fourth 200 and you go back to a 1000. it sort of tricks your body into continuing burning fat at the same rate while cosuming a lot less. but it shouldn't be done for too long. not surprisingly you need like 2000 calories a day to mantain a healthy lifestyle.
yeah i'm proof that girls really do think about their weight... a lot.
let's see... I'm an active teen, about five eleven, and about 130 pounds.
about the "wait 10-15 minutes" thing... if I wait that long even when I'm completely full, I'm hungry again. On the other hand, I have a crazy metabolism. Once I had a red bull, and I was unable to stand up straight for about 15 minutes. within the half hour, I was back to normal. The only time I'm ever NOT hungry is when I stuff myself 3 meals in a row.
however, I muchly agree with the sentiment of the "eat less" diet. also, a few random pointers from friends/family:
-quit pot. my drummer did that several months ago, and he's lost about 40 pounds, with a dramatic increase in muscle mass.
-take a closer look at snacks. snacking on a handful of peanuts every day made the difference between moderate weight gain and stability for my father.
about the "wait 10-15 minutes" thing... if I wait that long even when I'm completely full, I'm hungry again. On the other hand, I have a crazy metabolism. Once I had a red bull, and I was unable to stand up straight for about 15 minutes. within the half hour, I was back to normal. The only time I'm ever NOT hungry is when I stuff myself 3 meals in a row.
however, I muchly agree with the sentiment of the "eat less" diet. also, a few random pointers from friends/family:
-quit pot. my drummer did that several months ago, and he's lost about 40 pounds, with a dramatic increase in muscle mass.
-take a closer look at snacks. snacking on a handful of peanuts every day made the difference between moderate weight gain and stability for my father.
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That whole "don't eat" thing isn't really a good idea... you'd be a lot better off with a sensible diet (protein, complex carbs, healthy fats in small portions. Yes, "good" fats like omega 3's, 6's and 9's found in fish, peanuts, etc. actually help you lose fat) and a good exercise program including weight training and cardio. The diet you listed above is one of the worst diets I've ever seen in my life. Although you're eating, you're really starving your body and making it harder for yourself to lose weight.
Right now you're starving your body so your metablism is going to start slowing down. Your body will think there's a famine and it will be harder and harder to lose weight. The human body is very smart and when you start starving yourself (or restricting food to extreme limits) your body knows it needs to store fat to stay alive. Your metabolism becomes slower. You will probably start becoming weak and tired. Most of the weight you do lose will most likely be muscle, which is the key to a fast metabolism and a "toned" appearance. This muscle loss will be even worse due to the almost zero grams of protein in your diet. Muscle burns calories just sitting there. If you weighed 200 lbs, and worked out and gained 2 lbs of muscle without losing any fat, you'd be MUCH better off than you were at 200 lbs because your metabolism is now faster, it has to burn more calories to maintain the muscle you're carrying. Many people go by what the scale says instead of the mirror or body composition scale. You may be saying "hell yes I lost 10 lbs!" but if you lose 8 lbs of muscle and 2 lbs of fat, you've just become fatter because your metabolism is slower.. and your bodyfat percentage just got worse. If you gain 15-20 lbs of muscle from weight training, you will look better, lose fat MUCH faster, and be able to get away with dirtier food habits.
It is possible to stay full all the time (5-6 smaller meals per day) and eat the same amount of calories you were eating before (or more!!). Keeping a constant flow of food is better for your muscle maintenance and also it speeds up your fat loss because your body doesn't think theres a famine so it is less hesitant to release the fat. You just have to eat the right foods, not huge quantities but ample, and exercise a bit. And its not like you have to give up "bad" foods altogether, eating a "cheat meal" or "cheat day" every so often actually kickstarts the metabolism and helps you resume the quick pace of fat loss.
By the way, it is not necessary to "run" on a treadmill for cardio. You can very easily get your heart rate high enough to burn fat at a good rate by doing a fast paced walk on an incline or flat. Try keeping your heart rate around .65(220-age) for 30-45 mins in the morning on an empty stomach. Melts fat away. I HATE running and I dieted and trained for a bodybuilding show last year without a minute of running... just a fast walk on an incline. E-Z!
If you have any other questions about working out or dieting, feel free to ask, it's a hobby of mine and I'm also a personal trainer.
Right now you're starving your body so your metablism is going to start slowing down. Your body will think there's a famine and it will be harder and harder to lose weight. The human body is very smart and when you start starving yourself (or restricting food to extreme limits) your body knows it needs to store fat to stay alive. Your metabolism becomes slower. You will probably start becoming weak and tired. Most of the weight you do lose will most likely be muscle, which is the key to a fast metabolism and a "toned" appearance. This muscle loss will be even worse due to the almost zero grams of protein in your diet. Muscle burns calories just sitting there. If you weighed 200 lbs, and worked out and gained 2 lbs of muscle without losing any fat, you'd be MUCH better off than you were at 200 lbs because your metabolism is now faster, it has to burn more calories to maintain the muscle you're carrying. Many people go by what the scale says instead of the mirror or body composition scale. You may be saying "hell yes I lost 10 lbs!" but if you lose 8 lbs of muscle and 2 lbs of fat, you've just become fatter because your metabolism is slower.. and your bodyfat percentage just got worse. If you gain 15-20 lbs of muscle from weight training, you will look better, lose fat MUCH faster, and be able to get away with dirtier food habits.
It is possible to stay full all the time (5-6 smaller meals per day) and eat the same amount of calories you were eating before (or more!!). Keeping a constant flow of food is better for your muscle maintenance and also it speeds up your fat loss because your body doesn't think theres a famine so it is less hesitant to release the fat. You just have to eat the right foods, not huge quantities but ample, and exercise a bit. And its not like you have to give up "bad" foods altogether, eating a "cheat meal" or "cheat day" every so often actually kickstarts the metabolism and helps you resume the quick pace of fat loss.
By the way, it is not necessary to "run" on a treadmill for cardio. You can very easily get your heart rate high enough to burn fat at a good rate by doing a fast paced walk on an incline or flat. Try keeping your heart rate around .65(220-age) for 30-45 mins in the morning on an empty stomach. Melts fat away. I HATE running and I dieted and trained for a bodybuilding show last year without a minute of running... just a fast walk on an incline. E-Z!
If you have any other questions about working out or dieting, feel free to ask, it's a hobby of mine and I'm also a personal trainer.
Thanks for that informative post.
A few things:
1. I am not starving myself... just reducing my portion size. Before, every meal I ate was probably enough for two people. I dont feel real hungry all day, just feel like, "yeah, I could eat."
2. I dont plan to do this long term. Once I reach my initial goal of 200LBS I will have a larger lunch. Eventually, I would like to be down to 185-190LBS. Actually just yesterday I had a strawberry soy yogurt, 40 grams of mixed nuts and an apple. Nothing wrong with that.
3. I am not concerned about protein. I eat a handful of nuts 2 or 3 times a day. Almost every meal has a protein element in it. In fact almost every food has some level of protein in it. Unless its junkfood. A medium sized potato has 4 grams protein. One slice of whole wheat bread has 2 grams. Anyway when I first became vegan I did alot of research on nutrition and I learned that your body only requires 5% protein and the rest goes into the toilet... unless your heavily into bodybuilding etc then you need a little more.
Why 5%? This can be proven thru mother's breastmilk. A human baby is growing more in that period of life than at any other point, doubling their weight in 180 days. Therefore, their protein needs are the greatest in that point of life than they ever will be again in their lives. Nature has designed Mother's breastmilk to be the perfect source of nutrition for an infant. Human breast milk is composed of 5% protein. Therefore humans will never need more than 5% protein in their diet.
A friend of mine completed an ironman triatholon about 2 years ago. Trained about 6hrs a day. He is vegan. So lets not get into that issue ; )
4. I do intend to do some moderate weight/circuit training. Lifting weights is much more enjoyable than running. The self-discipline to do it is my next challenge!
A few things:
1. I am not starving myself... just reducing my portion size. Before, every meal I ate was probably enough for two people. I dont feel real hungry all day, just feel like, "yeah, I could eat."
2. I dont plan to do this long term. Once I reach my initial goal of 200LBS I will have a larger lunch. Eventually, I would like to be down to 185-190LBS. Actually just yesterday I had a strawberry soy yogurt, 40 grams of mixed nuts and an apple. Nothing wrong with that.
3. I am not concerned about protein. I eat a handful of nuts 2 or 3 times a day. Almost every meal has a protein element in it. In fact almost every food has some level of protein in it. Unless its junkfood. A medium sized potato has 4 grams protein. One slice of whole wheat bread has 2 grams. Anyway when I first became vegan I did alot of research on nutrition and I learned that your body only requires 5% protein and the rest goes into the toilet... unless your heavily into bodybuilding etc then you need a little more.
Why 5%? This can be proven thru mother's breastmilk. A human baby is growing more in that period of life than at any other point, doubling their weight in 180 days. Therefore, their protein needs are the greatest in that point of life than they ever will be again in their lives. Nature has designed Mother's breastmilk to be the perfect source of nutrition for an infant. Human breast milk is composed of 5% protein. Therefore humans will never need more than 5% protein in their diet.
A friend of mine completed an ironman triatholon about 2 years ago. Trained about 6hrs a day. He is vegan. So lets not get into that issue ; )
4. I do intend to do some moderate weight/circuit training. Lifting weights is much more enjoyable than running. The self-discipline to do it is my next challenge!
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I agree with everything in your post, except there are much more effective ways of losing fat. Much of the "several pounds" that someone loses from a diet such as this comes from muscle.
I understand you are eating throughout the day but for all intensive purposes you are starving yourself and putting your body in "famine mode". I would guess you're probably eating around 800-1000 calories per day.
YAY for vegans. I'm a vegetarian so I know all about protein and milk and the whole scare. I'm glad your vegan because vegans usually know more than everyone else about nutrition. I think it's just that veg*ns in general are more open and accepting and want to learn more. Where as damned meat eaters won't hear a word against how they were brought up.
id just like to say i can drink a 1 and ½ L of coke everyday eat chocolate all the time from boredom hunger, eat big fatty fried meals chocolate cereal, basically exactly the opposite of whats healthy, and im 6 foot 3 and 60 kg, nanana you guys
let me know how diabetes treats you.
I agree. Its a really simple concept. I just dont see how the diet industry is so lucrative.
Its really all about self-discipline.
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Eat for energy not for pleasure.
I've been skinny my whole life but recently it's starting to creep up on me and a gut if forming but it's not too bad yet. I'm 6'3" and weigh right around 195. I just need to lose 10 lbs. or so.
I've been skinny my whole life but recently it's starting to creep up on me and a gut if forming but it's not too bad yet. I'm 6'3" and weigh right around 195. I just need to lose 10 lbs. or so.
I was thinking the same thing, but you saved me a whole bunch of typing. Plus you sound much more knowledgeable on the subject than I.
Either way, this person knows what they're talking about! My personal trainer friend said the exact same thing to me. Not eating as much or as frequently will actually cause you to gain weight (fat) and lose muscle. Right now your body is going into survival mode because it thinks it's not getting enough food. So it stores fat because thats what your body burns first to keep you alive when your starving.
The key to burning fat is "tricking" your body into speeding up the metabolism. This is done by eating balanced meals (protiens/carbohydrates) more frequently (5-6 times a day or every 3hrs.). Portion control is important as well. This "tricks" the body into thinking it has more than enough food so it boosts the metabolism and starts burning fat.
I am vegan as well. I have been thinking lately, just to get healthier and such to go raw. Eating nothing but raw vegan foods. I think if it is an option for you to try to even eat raw 2 days a week. It is something I am trying to do, and the health benefits, when done correctly, amaze me to no end.
id just like to say i can drink a 1 and ½ L of coke everyday eat chocolate all the time from boredom hunger, eat big fatty fried meals chocolate cereal, basically exactly the opposite of whats healthy, and im 6 foot 3 and 60 kg, nanana you guys
Lol, I eat alot of crap too.
It's because we're still young, we can still get away with it
I love being 17.
