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EHX Pog vs. Canyon octave mode vs. Mooer Tender vs. ???

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Inconnu

Nov 1, 2005
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Hi again!
I’ve done some experiments and the result surprised me.

I’ve got an EHX Canyon delay. On octave mode, if you put the delay time and feedback at Zero, you get a polyphonic octave based on, I believe, a POG. Adjusting the upper octave around 15% and the lower at 100% then blending it 50/50 with my clean tone, I ended up with the sound I’m after… almost…
No latency I could hear, punch, and very clear clean tone.
The downsides? The lower octave does sound a bit like a degraded sound sample. Maybe it’s meant to be like that, but I think it could sound better. It did sound way better that the Joyo XVI I ordered and returned after trying it maybe 16 seconds. Another problem is that the Canyon’s function on my pedalboard is a delay so… I want to keep it that way.

So, it gets me thinking about getting maybe a Micro or a Nano POG. But… well I wonder if the lower octave sounds any different on these then on the Canyon. Also, I’d prefer the size (and price) of a Nano POG, but I read they sound different. Should I think the Micro is only different or is it really better then the Nano?

Also, there’s the half price solution of the Mooer Tender Octaver MKII. I read good reviews, but having had a very bad experience with the Joyo XVI, I hesitate to try the Mooer. Latency? Noise when daisy chained? Bad sound? Tracking? I haven’t seen much precise comments on that one.

Anything else? I’m not sure about the Sub’n’up. People tend to suggest a Boss OC-5, but is it really better then the OC-3 for the application I’m looking at?

I know, plenty of questions on that thread, but I’m really looking for a conclusion here. ;)
 
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I was using a Micro POG and switched over to a Mooer Tender MKI for the sake of space on my board. The difference between the two was slim to none minus the lack of dry out on the Mooer. I haven't tried the MKII but I imagine it would be pretty close as well.
 
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@Inconnu I've had really good luck with this little budget gem [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] that may be in stock in Canada, Oh Canada. I liked it enough to have bought two. Finding a pedal that does octave and two up is tough and this also does detune and other useful intervals.
 
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I have both a MicroPOG and an OC-5. I like the octave up better on the MicroPOG and the octave down better on the OC-5. The MicroPOG has the upside of being dead simple: three knobs, all easily visible, and obvious what they are. The OC-5 has more stuff to fiddle with, but I'll admit that I do like that it has a warmer OC-2 kind of option and a more modern OC-3-ish option. Both pedals seem to track about equally well. Haven't tried a Canyon or a Nano, though.
 
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SunByrne said:
I have both a MicroPOG and an OC-5. I like the octave up better on the MicroPOG and the octave down better on the OC-5. The MicroPOG has the upside of being dead simple: three knobs, all easily visible, and obvious what they are. The OC-5 has more stuff to fiddle with, but I'll admit that I do like that it has a warmer OC-2 kind of option and a more modern OC-3-ish option. Both pedals seem to track about equally well. Haven't tried a Canyon or a Nano, though.
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The OC-5 is quite cheaper… it’s just hard to find around here at the moment (I’m not in a hurry, though). Good to know the tracking is as good as the Micro Pog. I can’t imagine that the Canyon tracks better then an actual Pog and since it’s tracking is satisfactory, then the OC-5 should be great. I’ll be patient and wait until it’s in stock somewhere around here.
 
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bassbrad said:
@Inconnu I've had really good luck with this little budget gem [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] that may be in stock in Canada, Oh Canada. I liked it enough to have bought two. Finding a pedal that does octave and two up is tough and this also does detune and other useful intervals.
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Yup, Amazon as it. You can’t control the level of upper octave vs. lower with those. That’s what made me skip the idea
 
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I've owned the OC-2, OC-3 and OC-5, and Tender and Donner and Octabvre and Pitch Fork and a couple of others, but not the Canyon. The Mooer MkII is not good. MkI is too expensive (last I looked, >$190 on Reverb). OC-2 is my favorite low octave, and the Micro-POG is my favorite high octave (same as POG/Mini-POG).
 
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Inconnu said:
Yup, Amazon as it. You can’t control the level of upper octave vs. lower with those. That’s what made me skip the idea
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There are a controls for dry and the effect levels you can choose pitch up or pitch down you don't get both, the 3 way switch in the center is detune. The instructions are a bit confusing. FWIW DonnerDeal may offer a better price / discount.
 
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I had the Mooer Mk1, and while it worked - it was ok. Started glitching, then stopped working entirely after about a month. Replaced it with a nanoPOG, and have stuck with that - smooth sailing since :)

Don't have that much experience with other octavers to give you a detiled dissection of sonic/tracking performance - but based on construction/durability, the TO-mk1 experience has sort of put me off getting more Mooer stuff. YMMV.
 
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