Elevating cab - thoughts on this setup?

[Chickenwheels]

I've never elevated a cab before, but I think it will do the trick for this 212. Last show was a bit boomy, and I've never liked the T configuration that much (thin cab, wide amp). I had a step ladder I was thinking of using. Seems sturdy, but just looking to see what others thought.

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Problem solved!
Always better to have your speakers up a bit.

 

[Chickenwheels]

If it’s sturdy it’ll probably be fine. Ive play a lot of gigs using a 15 cab as an amp stand for a 410(15 not even plugged in) helps on shallow stages. But if I was playing where there’s minimal or no bass in the pa id put it on the floor

Yep. This is why the 410/115 rig can be good!

 

[Chickenwheels]

I’d quite often just leave my huge tube head sitting on it’s end next to the cab. Then I could tilt the cab back a bit as well.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

I've never elevated a cab before, but I think it will do the trick for this 212. Last show was a bit boomy, and I've never liked the T configuration that much (thin cab, wide amp). I had a step ladder I was thinking of using. Seems sturdy, but just looking to see what others thought.

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You could always just simply lower your bass knob. That usually what you do in boomy room situations.

 

[groooooove]

i did it for a while with a 2x12 cabinet, playing in a loud rock back where i could never hear myself.

i missed the fat low end from touching the floor. it really makes a big difference.

off the floor and angled up does help you hear yourself significantly better, and i doubt there's much of a difference between the two from 30 feet out front or whatever.

 

[Wasnex]

...i doubt there's much of a difference between the two from 30 feet out front or whatever.

In my experience, it does make a difference out front if you amp is carrying the house.

 

[Luckydog]

I’d quite often just leave my huge tube head sitting on it’s end next to the cab. Then I could tilt the cab back a bit as well.

I was going to suggest this. Have done this before with heads that look too wide when placed on the cab(s). I typically dont make many adjustments on the amp after initial setup, and have even put the head behind the cab stack occasionally. Why not? It works just fine for me. I can simply reach a little to flip the power or standby switches.

 

[Omega Monkey]

With that particular setup, I think I would put the head UNDER the ladder, then put the cab on top vertically. Or just have the cab vertical on the floor with the head on top like normal. Being upset that the head is wider than the cab is kind of like a little kids who don't want their food to touch on the plate level concern.

 

[madmarvin]

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With that particular setup, I think I would put the head UNDER the ladder, then put the cab on top vertically. Or just have the cab vertical on the floor with the head on top like normal. Being upset that the head is wider than the cab is kind of like a little kids who don't want their food to touch on the plate level concern.

I wouldn’t say it upsets me to any large degree, just given preference I would rather have the rig be symmetrical. Not that big an issue though.

I like all the ideas and I have a couple weeks till our next show so I’ll try them out. Someone commented earlier about turning down the bass for boomy rooms - totally agree. A little more context, my challenge right now is the band is very vocal centric, and the singer is trying to do much more “modern” sounding music with tight deep low end at extremely low volumes. I also use a bunch of different effects including an octave pedal for one song.... which is our quietest one lol. It’s a tough assignment and I’m trying to do whatever I can to be present and full at low volume, and still be articulate too. Most venues we play do not have PA support, especially during COVID lots of small pop up gigs.

All the suggestions give me options, so thank you!

 

[Michael Eisenman]

This has saved me on many an occasion. I modified a keyboard stand and it works perfectly with my rig. I have been in rooms that were were a bear to dial in. Decoupling from the floor did the trick.

Me, too; no modification:

 

[Redbrangus]

Good thing that rig gets so high...otherwise, the LD wouldn't be able to run the light show!

 

[Chickenwheels]

I wouldn’t say it upsets me to any large degree, just given preference I would rather have the rig be symmetrical. Not that big an issue though.

I like all the ideas and I have a couple weeks till our next show so I’ll try them out. Someone commented earlier about turning down the bass for boomy rooms - totally agree. A little more context, my challenge right now is the band is very vocal centric, and the singer is trying to do much more “modern” sounding music with tight deep low end at extremely low volumes. I also use a bunch of different effects including an octave pedal for one song.... which is our quietest one lol. It’s a tough assignment and I’m trying to do whatever I can to be present and full at low volume, and still be articulate too. Most venues we play do not have PA support, especially during COVID lots of small pop up gigs.

All the suggestions give me options, so thank you!

Turn down 200-250hz from your mids and you’ll be able get fatter/louder/cleaner without dirtying up the vocals and mix.

 

[zombywoof5050]

A little more context, my challenge right now is the band is very vocal centric, and the singer is trying to do much more “modern” sounding music with tight deep low end at extremely low volumes. I also use a bunch of different effects including an octave pedal for one song.... which is our quietest one lol. It’s a tough assignment and I’m trying to do whatever I can to be present and full at low volume, and still be articulate too. Most venues we play do not have PA support, especially during COVID lots of small pop up gigs.

A HPF would probably help with this. I like a variable one for fine tuning.

 

[buzzbass]

here you go

 

[madmarvin]

After a couple weeks of practices I can say this change has helped a ton. I sound better and clearer than ever, I just feel like I have a lot more volume control and can get "louder" without blowing everything out. EQ is pretty much flat, a little boost on the bottom but that's about it. First show is Friday, we'll see how it goes on stage, that's the real test for me.