The head will probably a GK 700rb-II or Fusion 550, I have a sansamp BDDI and E-H Big Muff Pi that will probsbly be used on many songs, bass is a passive Ibanez 5'er. I like the bass tones of Rage Against the Machine and early Tool, basically more heavy than metal. I've read that this cab isn't very aggressive sounding in the mids, but was wondering if I could dial some of that in via the GK amp? Any thoughts...?
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Epifani UL-410 for metal?
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from what i've heard GK's have a midrange character inherently (as opposed to the "round" scooped sound of ampeg) so it should do fine. between the the GK and the sansamp you should have plenty of tone options.
gregbackstrom
These aren't stock curves--things move around!
For that money, you can get a variety of Mesa Boogie cabinets that will be much better suited for your sound (IME, of course). I have both and use both. My Mesa cabinets are the sound of "balls to the wall" rock. My Epifani cabs are the sound of funk (and fusion jazz).
YMMV,
Greg
I use an Epifani UL410 and I play rock, and we can get pretty heavy.
Gets the job done with flying colors!
Gets the job done with flying colors!
What I like about the ul-410 is the sensitivity, weight, and broad frequency response (for the low B), but I've never heard them described as punchy. The AE410 and the Mesa's from what I've read would be great but hard to find used. Thanx for the responses.
I certainly agree that the UL410 is loud, light and very deep. The mids are smooth and polite to my ears, but the cab can get very punchy, yet retain it's "heaviness" with the right head (I use a Thunderfunk, which is extremely punchy). Would be interested to see how it would sound with a bit of grind dialed in from your effects - if you get a bit of midrange grind dialed in, I bet it would be a good combo, but there are others around here that might have a more informed view (I don't use effects...)
I was also thinking about an SWR Goliath IV but there seems to be some debate about the newer version (IV...post Fender?). I also play clean w/o effects but I've heard they are mid-scooped, overall the mids and punch are overall more important than the ability to handle the low B especially if it's not tight.
Does it make more sense to get a cab that has the tone I want to begin with and then buy a head to work with that cab, instead of getting a cab I "want" and trying to get the tone I want through my amps EQ? (The above post was by me through a friend computer).
I've found that the cab + head = tone - - they don't stand apart.
I have to say that were I a metal bassist, an Epi would not be my first choice... and I have a epi 4x10 (non UL - heavy as hell)
I have to say that were I a metal bassist, an Epi would not be my first choice... and I have a epi 4x10 (non UL - heavy as hell)
I owned a UL410-S1 for awhile. I pretty much agree with your comments: to my ears, it was deep and bright with forward punch in the high mids. I thought it sounded fine when run clean, but IMO it didn't work well when I dialed in some grind from my SansAmp RBI/RPM rig (note that I don't use heavy distortion, just some tubey warmth and grit). My hunch is that the high mid presence didn't go well with the grind. I sold my UL410 and went with a pair of Berg HS210 cabs: to my ears they're more even in the mids, and I can easily emphasize low-mid growl that sounds good with overdrive.
The Berg HS cabs use ceramic drivers. I went with them before the lightweight Berg AE cabs were available. I have not tried the AE cabs.
FWIW my #1 cab for aggressive rock is the tweeterless Berg NV610, but as you'd expect it is larger and significantly heavier than the UL410.
