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Episode III

Kurt Berglund said:
My wife and I both enjoyed it more the second time around. Once you've got that initial feel for it, you're better able to digest it the second time.


I found I enjoyed it a ton more the second time also because I was able to anticipate the couple of goofy love scenes and zone them out.
 
Wrong Robot said:
I'm honestly really curious as to what you thought was childish about episode 3. Because the movie I saw was far darker and more 'adult' than any other star wars movie, empire strikes back included. Aside from a couple of goofy droid scenes, there was nothing in episode 3 that could even remotely be construed as childish. So, if you could please tell me what scenes made the whole movie childish for you?
I'm with you...I just re-visited Episode IV; now that was like something from Sesame Street.


Wrong Robot said:
Like, criticize the movie's acting, story, effects or dialog or whatever, but even then, the content is still very far from being childish at all. Hell when I saw it, there was a kid in the audience CRYING when the jedi were slaughtered.
Hell, a 35-year old aquantance told me he was shedding tears!
LOL!

Anyway, movies like this & The Matrix, etc tend to be more about the F/X & less about the dialouge & character developement. We should know that going in, right?
Too, part of that blame falls on us(I guess)...many of us have become short-attention spanned; we want it quick, now, sooner vs. later, blah.

A co-worker asked me who was the better film maker-
Lucas or Spielberg.
Not even close...right?
;)
 
JimK said:
A co-worker asked me who was the better film maker-
Lucas or Spielberg.
Not even close...right?
;)

are we on this again? Seriously, Lucas was more an innovator than a filmmaker in the end, yet he's still made some good films, Episode 3 included. Episode 2 I coulda done without... :smug:

There's really no comparison as they are totally different filmakers with totally opposite agendas. Lucas himself has openly lamented about SW taking up 30 years of his life, and he wants to move on to stark esoteric films like THX1138 again..in a way coming full-circle to his roots. Speilberg, although enormously talented, is also a coat-tail hopper in terms of using his pal Lucas' innovations to fuel his own visions, much like 90% of Hollywood. Lambast Lucas all you want, but he's done a whole lot of good for the industry.
 
JimK said:
I'm with you...I just re-visited Episode IV; now that was like something from Sesame Street.

I was watching episode IV and then episode V the other day, and while episode V is definitely dark, I realized what makes it so memorable is that it's very subtle, lots of the eerieness about certain scenes and places, all very subvert and not easily realized(unless of course it's the 195436th time you've seen the movie;)

Hell, a 35-year old aquantance told me he was shedding tears!
LOL!

Dork!!(I got a tiny knot in my throat when mace windu was offed :(

Anyway, movies like this & The Matrix, etc tend to be more about the F/X & less about the dialouge & character developement. We should know that going in, right?
Too, part of that blame falls on us(I guess)...many of us have become short-attention spanned; we want it quick, now, sooner vs. later, blah.


It's a tough call. I'm a big fan of the matrix movies because, they have stellar effects, but also manage to, at the very least, talk about some interesting ideas, even if nothing comes of them in the end. Of the 3 movies, Revolutions is the most disposable, since about half the movie is devoted to a huge super effects battle sequence. But The original matrix and reloaded both have some really good dialogues and characters. Not necessarily character development :p, but some good characters regardless.

I try not to let stuff like that tint my movie experience when I'm going in. Even if it is just another hollywood blockbuster effects laden action movie, I do try and approach it for what it's worth, instead of saying "oh here's a flick, good flick I'll munch pop-corn and zone out for 2 hours"

That said, while episode 3 is has an incredible amount of CGI, I ultimately felt like the CGI in the movie didn't really detract from what was going on, and that's a good thing every movie(that is using heavy effects) should strive for, imo.



By far the most incredible thing about star wars for me, is the fact that lucas basically didn't plan any of it. I'm sure he had sketched out some ideas here and there pertaining to the whole universe. But When he first made "a new hope", it wasn't even called "a new hope"! The whole series just kinda fell together in a very unconventional, but ultimately manageable way, so props to lucas for taking a mismash of ideas and wrangling them together in the end.
 
Wrong Robot said:
By far the most incredible thing about star wars for me, is the fact that lucas basically didn't plan any of it. I'm sure he had sketched out some ideas here and there pertaining to the whole universe. But When he first made "a new hope", it wasn't even called "a new hope"! The whole series just kinda fell together in a very unconventional, but ultimately manageable way, so props to lucas for taking a mismash of ideas and wrangling them together in the end.

Actually, it was always Episode IV. He concieved the whole over-arching structure, and many of the stories, as bedtime stories for his kids.