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Equalization for bass
- Thread starter crguti
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What do you mean by "create"?
Design and build? Physical or software? Pedal, rack, plugin?
There are so many solution already available, why create?
Design and build? Physical or software? Pedal, rack, plugin?
There are so many solution already available, why create?
Yes, I omitted a lot of info.
Design in LTSpice and build in KiCad (I am not newbie). Analog signal, Pedal format, 9v supply.
I would like to do something that is not so common.
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OK. As XLunacy said, before you design something "not so common" you should study existing plugins. So many things already existing, good luck finding a new approach on the topic…
Feel free to ask for feedback here, and also over at the Pickups & Electronics sub, lots of knowledgeable people there; you'll get interesting and various outlooks on the subject (user POVs VS designer POV).
If you want something unusual, this might do the trick: Pultec EQP-1A
Supposedly the bomb for bass. There are multiple videos on YouTube if you are curious.
Klark Teknik makes a fairly inexpensive clone: EQP-KT.
Warm Audio also makes clone: EQP-WA...it's a bit more expensive than the KT.
I believe some have tried to build a pedal that captures the performance as well.
No first stand experience that I know of. Although I have done some studio time, so who knows.
Supposedly the bomb for bass. There are multiple videos on YouTube if you are curious.
Klark Teknik makes a fairly inexpensive clone: EQP-KT.
Warm Audio also makes clone: EQP-WA...it's a bit more expensive than the KT.
I believe some have tried to build a pedal that captures the performance as well.
No first stand experience that I know of. Although I have done some studio time, so who knows.
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I came across this thread: Pultec Style EQ in a pedal, why isn’t this a thing?
The Boost and Attenuation are kinda weird to use both at the same time, but it's interesting to read about this.
IMHO, anything made by Klark Teknik is a waste of $$ unless you get the Revive audio version.
If you have the means, try the Demeter HBP-1H as a jumping off point for bass eq, it sounds great!
If you have the means, try the Demeter HBP-1H as a jumping off point for bass eq, it sounds great!
Evil J, would you care to explain your statement about Klark Teknik (yes, I know they are now owned by Behringer).
Cool.
Azure Sky's (Broughton Audio) reply is not very ecouraging.
I believe anything that would be interesting regarding EQ have been done already, or is impossible to do.
I have and like a clone of the Spaceman Equinox.
I’ve also tested a version made by an independent builder in that thread.
Both are interesting and cool, the Spaceman having more of a “color” while the other was squeaky clean.
I’ve also tested a version made by an independent builder in that thread.
Both are interesting and cool, the Spaceman having more of a “color” while the other was squeaky clean.
@brianrost
Of course! The short answer(I'm about to get ready for work) As with any gear, YMMV but in my experience with KT it just sounds horrible and is not worth the $ esp the Pultec clone eq. It has been a few years so maybe they are better now. As far as Behringer, I think they make some great entry level studio stuff.
I will elaborate later today if it helps!
J
Of course! The short answer(I'm about to get ready for work) As with any gear, YMMV but in my experience with KT it just sounds horrible and is not worth the $ esp the Pultec clone eq. It has been a few years so maybe they are better now. As far as Behringer, I think they make some great entry level studio stuff.
I will elaborate later today if it helps!
J
Sorry if I missed it, but I think you need to define if you’re looking for “cool” from a musician/user perspective or from an engineering/designer perspective.
I'm an Engineer so I'm looking for something interesting to build that is not so common and at the same time that is useful for bass.
I agree, there is no innovation in the EQ pedal world that's why I'm looking for something out of the ordinary.
Yeah, I guess the bread-and-butter 3 band EQ has been “solved”. You’ve got the Fender stack, the Ampeg stack with the inductor, a few types of active EQ…
A bit less common would be for example a single band, fully parametric EQ. Or maybe a resonant filter, like a Moog ladder with adjustable resonance and pre-gain/drive.
Either way - have fun!
The Genzler re/q looks great.
Low pass to knock off highs, more vintage or whatever.
High pass to get rid of excess lows.
5 band eq: optimize bass, low mid punch, optional mid scoop, high mid presence, treble airiness….
I like the 5 band eq concept, to get a “seagull shaped” eq. ^^
Could expand by making the mids semi-parametric.
Maybe leave off bass and treble if the overall output, HPF and LPF take care of it.
Low pass to knock off highs, more vintage or whatever.
High pass to get rid of excess lows.
5 band eq: optimize bass, low mid punch, optional mid scoop, high mid presence, treble airiness….
I like the 5 band eq concept, to get a “seagull shaped” eq. ^^
Could expand by making the mids semi-parametric.
Maybe leave off bass and treble if the overall output, HPF and LPF take care of it.
How about something like the [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] circuit? It can act as HPF, LPF, BPF (all at the same time if desired).
For those who are unaware of what state variable filters are, they are commonly used in synthesizers. It's the second most common after the ladder filter.
Here's one in an envelope following filter pedal (i.e. not used as an EQ).
