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Ernie Ball Stingray - NAMM Bass of the Year

Roasting is an intriguing concept. At 250 C and higher, cellulose starts to depolymerize. I supose an extended heat soak at 220C would produce limited depolymerization allowing some porosity. Overdue, and wood strength would suffer.

Fyi, kiln drying is usually 80 to 120 C. I suspect what the roasting due may be enchanced drying.

My father kept boards for guitars in the attic to dry for ar least a decade before he used them. He probably had $20k in wood up there.
 
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What's so special? Looks like the same old stingray

Every part is new - body, neck, tuners, bridge, preamp and pickup. Your comment is testament to the taste and discretion of the EBMM design and development teams in creating an integrated evolution of the design without losing any of the things that make the Ray what it is, IMHO.
 
What's so special? Looks like the same old stingray

And a Sadowsky J-bass "looks like" the same old jazz bass from 1962.

It's interesting to me that there have been several comments about this (what's the difference?) and, presumably, the commentors have neither compared specs nor actually sat down and played one or compared them with any of the iterations from before 2018.

If you had, you wouldn't be asking this question. I've had a ton of Stingrays, (USA) Sterlings, import Sterlings, and a Sabre or two over the years. Believe me, there IS a distinct difference between the new and older Stingrays. Yeah, they are still Stingrays, but if you are used to any of the earlier versions and you'd gigged with them for years, you'd notice the multiple differences right away. It's a stellar evolution/refinement of the "Stingray bloodline."
 
I love the figuring on the classic necks and the old smoothie, but after a few minutes of playing me hand gets all gummed up on that super high gloss neck. I wish I could get one with a matte finish.

To be honest, I've never had a problem with this - that's just how all instruments always (are) were.

Other than the odd guitarist, who would sand down to the bare wood, the neck on their brand new Stratocaster (because they'd heard one of their guitar heroes had done so) it wasn't until the 90's, when Fender, and Music Man started offering them, that I encountered those satin / unfinished necks - which are amazing.

Fortunately, gloss necks are great for lazy bums like me, who can't be arsed to maintain unfinished necks properly.
 
After reading over this thread it seems like the new Stingray is getting accolades for things many other manufacturers has been doing all along the way.

Oh you finally started caring about the weight of your basses? Well congratulations there Mr Ernie Ball . Let's give you bass of the year for that! Oh, and let's call them Specials so that the ignorant masses think we've accomplished something that's never been done before.
 
After reading over this thread it seems like the new Stingray is getting accolades for things many other manufacturers has been doing all along the way.

Oh you finally started caring about the weight of your basses? Well congratulations there Mr Ernie Ball . Let's give you bass of the year for that! Oh, and let's call them Specials so that the ignorant masses think we've accomplished something that's never been done before.

Never a true word spoken!
 
After reading over this thread it seems like the new Stingray is getting accolades for things many other manufacturers has been doing all along the way.

Oh you finally started caring about the weight of your basses? Well congratulations there Mr Ernie Ball . Let's give you bass of the year for that! Oh, and let's call them Specials so that the ignorant masses think we've accomplished something that's never been done before.
No
 
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After reading over this thread it seems like the new Stingray is getting accolades for things many other manufacturers has been doing all along the way.

Oh you finally started caring about the weight of your basses? Well congratulations there Mr Ernie Ball . Let's give you bass of the year for that! Oh, and let's call them Specials so that the ignorant masses think we've accomplished something that's never been done before.


Every time a new feature gets added to Pro Tools, you always get a bunch of folks who use other DAWs, carping on about "Logic / Nuendo / Cubase (pick one) has been able to do that for years..."

What those people fail to acknowledge is that all other DAWs are not Pro Tools.


It's basically the same thing here : none of the other manufacturers make the Stingray!
 
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That's not what he said at all.

A figured neck is inherently less stable than one made from non-figured wood.

He clearly states that only stable figured wood survives the roasting process - ergo, it was a stable piece of wood to begin with, and had been further stabilised by roasting.

That's why he's now able to offer figured necks.

EBMM used to use fantastically figured wood in the 90's.

I'd initially assumed that those stocks had dried up in the last 15 years - but evidently they elected to make the necks as stable as possible, for the benefit of the primary purpose of the instrument (cosmetics taking a back seat), and have taken this further by now roasting the necks as standard.

Of course, the "Classic" line still offers non-roasted, highly figured necks, if that's what you want.

This is exatly right. This same guy has been trying to make this claim about Sadowsky for years and has been proven wrong every time.
 
After reading over this thread it seems like the new Stingray is getting accolades for things many other manufacturers has been doing all along the way.

Oh you finally started caring about the weight of your basses? Well congratulations there Mr Ernie Ball . Let's give you bass of the year for that! Oh, and let's call them Specials so that the ignorant masses think we've accomplished something that's never been done before.

Clearly you've never looked at the differences these new Stingrays have - there's a whole host of them - it's not only consistently lighter weight - there are a series of improvements made but they retain the Stingray vibe and tone. Clearly the dealers who voted liked them and the way they sold anyway.

I think the idea Ernie Ball suddenly woke up and became customer focussed is also way off beam - they always have been and attention to detail is part of their strength.
 
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Never a true word spoken!
For someone who allegedly was about to buy a Stingray Special, you seem lacking in awareness of their features to have agreed with this comment - they have features which are not offered generally on other basses and the sum of the improved parts make for an excellent bass - you really have to hold and play one to get the full effect.
 
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For someone who allegedly was about to buy a Stingray Special, you seem lacking in awareness of their features to have agreed with this comment - they have features which are not offered generally on other basses and the sum of the improved parts make for an excellent bass - you really have to hold and play one to get the full effect.

And I could easily still buy one, and I do rate them. I like the poster above get sick of the bull that comes from EB Marketing etc. You are either fooled or not fooled and I am in the not fooled camp.
 
Fooled by what? You clearly have hatred for Musicman, why not just move along.
I own two Musicman basses and will be looking to get a third, so stop the false characterization when you say I clearly have an hatred for EB. It seems to be a growing trend among the EB fraternity that when you say something that is truthful about their products or marketing they either call you a troll or tell you to go away.
 
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