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#841
Oh if I were king for a day....

Of course, with my views on how truth in advertising laws ought to work, half the industry would be shut down and almost everybody with advertising or marketing in their title would be out of a job. :scowl:
 
#844
dannybuoy said:
I definitely smell BS when they're talking about break-in of DIGITAL cables:

Morrow Audio - DIG4 Grand Reference Digital Cable
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That's not the worst of it. The entire point of digital transmission is that it's immune to all of the ills that plague analog. If it works at all it works as well as is possible, and both the resistance and capacitance requirements are far less than with analog. But the price isn't. :confused:
BTW, HDMI cables carry digital information, and anything priced at over a dollar a foot is a total ripoff. Now think back to what the salesperson where you bought your HT gear pushed on you...besides the extended warranty.
 
#845
seamonkey said:
Why is it that some electrical engineer needs to prove that they don't work? Why doesn't ESP prove they do work and save us all the trouble?

Science can't prove something doesn't exist. Science can't prove ghost don't exist. And science nor any psychic, nor TV show, nor celebrity endorsement can prove they do exist. I can make up something entirely in my mind and then tell you to prove it doesn't exist. Look up Carl Sagan and his invisible dragon.

Let's say that these cables do affect the gear under test that someone can hear a difference. Is it better or worst? That's subjective. Measurements would tell if the gear under test is reproducing the signal better or worst.

I heard something recently. Lets say you go to a Magic show. Do you believe the magician is magic? You can't figure out the trick yet you must know it's not really magic. You can study and practise magic tricks. Are you magic? After you studied and practiced magic tricks and then go see a magician what's your perspective? Engineers don't need to go to magic shows and spend time proving magic tricks are tricks. Every honorable magician will admit they're tricks.

These ESP cords aren't magic. Enough that any engineer doesn't need waste their time proving they are or aren't. ESP needs to prove they are.
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Seamonkey - either I didn't convey my thoughts properly, you misread my post, or a combination of the two happened. :)

I'm on your side here, and for the record, am an engineer (civil, not electrical though), so I do have some basic idea of science...

I want to convince "magic ears" crowd that they are wrong, not that basic science is flawed. I figure a controlled ABY test carried out with an independent third party observing, may slow the dissemination of incorrect information (and that's the goal here, right?)
 
#848
seamonkey said:
These ESP cords aren't magic. Enough that any engineer doesn't need waste their time proving they are or aren't. ESP needs to prove they are.
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Obviously ESP doesn't have to prove anything. Seems all they needed was a video of them at the Namm show, a fancy website and 49 main stream endorsers who all say they hear a difference.

I would think if ESP could prove that the cord really did change your tone (for the better) they would show up here with some evidence. Over 19,000 views. If it were my company and I could back it up with facts you bet I'd be here in this forum. This would be a perfect way to increase sales!!!!
 
#850
Paullee01 said:
Obviously ESP doesn't have to prove anything. Seems all they needed was a video of them at the Namm show, a fancy website and 49 main stream endorsers who all say they hear a difference.

I would think if ESP could prove that the cord really did change your tone (for the better) they would show up here with some evidence. Over 19,000 views. If it were my company and I could back it up with facts you bet I'd be here in this forum. This would be a perfect way to increase sales!!!!
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If ESP posted the data, somebody would figure out how to emulate it digitally. They have to protect their trade secrets.

In fact, that gives me an idea: A power cable emulation box that goes into the effects loop of any amp and reproduces the effect of a boutique power cable!

/sarcasm
 
#851
I just found out they have 2 sets of recordings on their site you can download. They say the only thing changed was the power cords. I have just toggled between the first couple of seconds of each file and I can't make a distinction between the two on either set, but I don't have audiophile grade ears. Maybe others will have better luck. :smug:

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#852
3506string said:
I just found out they have 2 sets of recordings on their site you can download. They say the only thing changed was the power cords. I have just toggled between the first couple of seconds of each file and I can't make a distinction between the two on either set, but I don't have audiophile grade ears. Maybe others will have better luck. :smug:

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Anyone know of an app for Mac that allows you to fade between two MP3s? There has to be a DJ app or something.
 
#854
Paullee01 said:
Obviously ESP doesn't have to prove anything. Seems all they needed was a video of them at the Namm show, a fancy website and 49 main stream endorsers who all say they hear a difference.

I would think if ESP could prove that the cord really did change your tone (for the better) they would show up here with some evidence. Over 19,000 views. If it were my company and I could back it up with facts you bet I'd be here in this forum. This would be a perfect way to increase sales!!!!
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EXACTLY!

I'll tell you what it is...Vic was one of the very first to get behind it, and he's so well-respected that nobody would dare think he could be fooled, and it set off a chain reaction of high level endorsers who believe in Vic, therefore by default they believe in this Magic Bean Cord. The Emperor's New Clothes for bass players ;)
 
#855
JimmyM said:
EXACTLY!

I'll tell you what it is...Vic was one of the very first to get behind it, and he's so well-respected that nobody would dare think he could be fooled, and it set off a chain reaction of high level endorsers who believe in Vic, therefore by default they believe in this Magic Bean Cord. The Emperor's New Clothes for bass players ;)
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Admittedly I have years and years of admiration and respect to cloud my usual logic, but I'd look into this piece of equipment with a less jaundiced eye if Anthony Jackson was using it.
 
#856
cybersnyder said:
Anyone know of an app for Mac that allows you to fade between two MP3s? There has to be a DJ app or something.
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It's been a while but way back when I used Virtual DJ. I just checked their site and they do have a version for mac.


From what I remember there were two turntables and you could drag and drop the files onto the table or load from the menu but this was some time ago so it could have changed.

http://www.virtualdj.com/download/free.html
 
#857
3506string said:
It's been a while but way back when I used Virtual DJ. I just checked their site and they do have a version for mac.


From what I remember there were two turntables and you could drag and drop the files onto the table or load from the menu but this was some time ago so it could have changed.

VIRTUAL DJ SOFTWARE - Download VirtualDJ Home FREE
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Sweet it's in the App Store too. Thanks!
 
#858
cybersnyder said:
What do you do?
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I play bass just like everybody else here.:D

Really though, I know we need marketing, nobody could buy a product if they didn't know it existed but this is over the top dishonest. It's beyond the realm of possibility.

Worse than phony speaker specs. Even drug companies are now required to admit their crap has a better chance of hurting or killing you than it does curing you. Notice over half of an add says all the bad stuff it can do? Yet, we let this slide? True, a power cable might not kill you but ripping people off isn't such a nice thing either.
 
#860
Alexander Eddy said:
Seamonkey - either I didn't convey my thoughts properly, you misread my post, or a combination of the two happened. :)

I'm on your side here, and for the record, am an engineer (civil, not electrical though), so I do have some basic idea of science...

I want to convince "magic ears" crowd that they are wrong, not that basic science is flawed. I figure a controlled ABY test carried out with an independent third party observing, may slow the dissemination of incorrect information (and that's the goal here, right?)
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Ooops - sorry man. I totally misread.
 
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