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Ever tried ZOG strings?

I haven't but you need to check this website out. Lulz galore in every page. But I implore you to read this link in the strings section

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This might be a first step in guitarists finally breaking out of their drone like traditions

For those too lazy to click the link its the same concept as Circle K but done in a much more...shall we say...forward fashion? :D

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(he makes bass strings too :hiding:)
 
It's his business model, for every ten that he offends there will be one that's interested so the more he can offend, the more that will be interested.

I already use Circle K's for my balanced sets because I like the selection, the maker, and the information. I'm not leaving them.

I do have a tendency to buy, fix, play, and flip basses locally, so it'd be nice to buy a few cheapy sets for those times.

EDIT: Found these tensions on his setup page:
G: 33.7 lbs
D: 38.0 lbs
A: 44.0 lbs
E: 51.0 lbs

That is absolutely incredible, and the steps in tension seem completely unnecessary. While he doesn't give the tension for 5-string sets, I presume that his low B string sits around 57 lbs, which seems a bit too high to be structurally sound.
 
That site looks like a 2 year old made it. Not to mention you have to scroll down 12 times to figure out its a business and you can buy things. he keeps talking about tensions lol what about materials or tone. What does that tension do for my overall tone? What materials does he use. Overall I feel like I wasted 10 minutes of my life reading some of that mouth garbage.
 
Yeah which is a pity because I agree with him that the optimum distribution of tension is a slight and steady fall of tension from lowest to highest string. Such an excellent idea is unfortunately associated with this guy. His bass sets however have too extreme a change of tension and the lowest strings are too tight.
 
Yeah which is a pity because I agree with him that the optimum distribution of tension is a slight and steady fall of tension from lowest to highest string. Such an excellent idea is unfortunately associated with this guy. His bass sets however have too extreme a change of tension and the lowest strings are too tight.

I actually play with about 49 lbs of tension, so that's fine with me. But I agree - it's too drastic. He'd be better off with a 2-3 lb difference between strings and offering Light, Medium, and Heavy gauges of such.

He also says that his "optimization" changes as you add more strings, suggesting to me that the difference in tension between strings on his 7-string set is probably closer to, in my opinion, the optimal 2-3 lb difference.

Also, I am dead set on ordering some strings from him on Friday with my paycheck - three electric guitar sets, one acoustic guitar set, and the 5-string rounds set. Granted, the strings will be going on an OLP I'm planning to sell anyway, so the tone wont be the greatest (the bass is just too warm for my liking), but feel and consistency is really what I'll be looking at most.
 
I actually play with about 49 lbs of tension, so that's fine with me. But I agree - it's too drastic. He'd be better off with a 2-3 lb difference between strings and offering Light, Medium, and Heavy gauges of such.

He also says that his "optimization" changes as you add more strings, suggesting to me that the difference in tension between strings on his 7-string set is probably closer to, in my opinion, the optimal 2-3 lb difference.

Also, I am dead set on ordering some strings from him on Friday with my paycheck - three electric guitar sets, one acoustic guitar set, and the 5-string rounds set. Granted, the strings will be going on an OLP I'm planning to sell anyway, so the tone wont be the greatest (the bass is just too warm for my liking), but feel and consistency is really what I'll be looking at most.

Were you allowed to buy the strings?
 
Were you allowed to buy the strings?

He never responded to my followup email. I ultimately ended up just ordering the strings from another email address that is tied to my PayPal, and he didn't have any problems with it. Either he didn't realize it was me, or isn't so strangely prideful that he would turn down a $55 order.

I haven't received the strings yet (or notification that they've been shipped), but as soon as I get them, I'll update the thread.
 
I got the strings last night. I first noticed how incredibly beefy the low B was. I took out the digital caliper and measured it. A whopping .153. That's about where I expected it to be, with about 50 lbs of tension. It has a taper to about 2", which is great because it will even work for string-thru basses.

I strung up my modified OLP MM5 (34" scale) with the ZOG strings and played around with them for about an hour, testing them fingerstyle, with a pick, slapping, and just a small amount of tapping.

Picking - I played with both a heavy pick and a light pick and plucked them near the bridge, over the pickup, and toward the neck. I'm not normally a neck plucker, but I noticed that these strings seemed to feel fairly consistent in terms of balance when played there. They responded well to a pick and weren't overly bright.

Slapping, I enjoyed. The high tension on the lower strings gave a very articulate sound, and the lower tension on the D and G strings made plucking and double-plucking a breeze. They had a bright nickel sound to them. I was actually able to get a decent slap tone out of them on the OLP, which as I've said before, isn't much to my liking due to the pickup and preamp combination it has.

Fingerstyle, I definitely noticed that the strings are pretty smooth and reasonably responsive to dynamic changes. They don't feel like they catch at all, so that's a plus. Tonally, the consistency was right about there. You can only get so close, though, without the physical limitation.

All-in-all, for $30, these strings were on par with other $30 nickel sets, but with the added benefit of the huge, tight low B-string (probably worth it just for that). I have read that they are like D'Addarios. It's been 8 years since I've touched that brand, but it sounds like a reasonable claim - smooth and moderately priced.


Given the nature and claim of these strings, I have to discuss the more technical aspects of these strings and the progressive tension. Let it be known that I first played the strings for an hour before measuring any of them except the B-string. Given that I don't know the exact nature of the string construction or unit weights, I can only make tension estimations, so I relied on feel. After an hour, I felt that the EAD-strings felt a bit off. Tonally, they were in the ballpark, but the feel was different.

I decided to break out the digital caliper, and using estimations of D'Addario's website, here is the approximate string tension for these strings:

G: 34 lbs
D: 35 lbs
A: 42 lbs
E: 51 lbs
B: 50 lbs

The E-string actually felt like it had more than 1 lb of tension greater than the low B-string, but I can only speculate how much or if it was only perceived tension. Regardless, it was apparent that the step in tension between strings was quite off from the change in tension posted for the typical 4-string set, looking more like an arctangent curve than a linear progression. I think that if he were to drop the E-string down and bump the D-string up, he could level the tension out to something a bit smoother (34lbs 38lbs 42lbs 46lbs 50lbs, more or less). Just my recommendation, though. I'm really curious to try out the other 3 guitar string sets I bought, to see if I get the same feeling about them, or if the tension is a bit more consistently spaced.

In summation, every string maker has their own way of doing things, and I see ZOG as a step in the right direction. Like ixlramp has been saying, the progressive tension thing is ideal.
 
Just started playing bass guitar, but I have used the ZOG strings on my guitar for a long time, and immediately ordered the 4 string set for my bass.

At first I found the E string difficult to slap due to the high tension, but when I got it right, I just love the deep, yet distinctive sound, even on an open string. No muddyness whatsoever. Tried to drop D tune it, but that introduced slight muddyness again.

In short: love'm on the guitar, love'm on the bass.

Nevermind the extreme arrogance on the web site. People skills are not among his strenghts. He is easy to buy from and if nothing else, passionate about what he does.
 

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