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Everyone's downsizing these days..

#361
I play metal said:
I can see that.But if done right there's no need/reason to have a bad back because of gear IMO.Never been to a place were there wasnt a hand to help out.We always tag team our gear-cuts the weight in half and you dont get burnt out,etc.

also I cut down on my gym membership costs!!:bassist:
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One problem I run into regarding this is when I have to park down the block from a venue, which happens a lot for me. Even with a full band to help out, a one-trip load in is pretty sweet.

A large part of this too is that "my tone" is pretty easy to achieve with a small setup, SS amp, compression, not a ton of low end.
 
#362
SpamBot said:
One problem I run into regarding this is when I have to park down the block from a venue, which happens a lot for me. Even with a full band to help out, a one-trip load in is pretty sweet.

A large part of this too is that "my tone" is pretty easy to achieve with a small setup, SS amp, compression, not a ton of low end.
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I hear that man.happens often true.But really I cant see a big deal with wheeling an 810 around to the stage.(stairs are different haha) and a rack case.Combined withr all the PA gear,drums,etc we hall it's really nothin.
 
#363
I`m doing the exact opposite. I`m trying to score a head that weighs 6 times what my current one weighs and I unfortunately think I`ll be getting a heavier cab as well because I don`t like the current ones voicing.
 
#364
Fretlessboy said:
I have found that a powerful head (for headroom) and a pair of 210 cabinets gets it done. I take one when needed and 2 when needed. Any more than that and FOH takes it over. Jimmy, I do on occassion miss the feel of dual 810's... but I think any one who ever used 16 10's knows the feeling no matter how much they like a smaller rig.
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I ran across this reading this thread (duh) and realize it is months old, but was excited that someone else uses 2 - 2x10 cabs. Here's my setup but I'm deciding on a good tube (preamp at least) amp.


Amp: Genz Benz GBE1200? - undecided but need 500-800W at 8 ohms

Cabs: 2 - Bag End D10XBs wired to 16 ohms
 
#365
Gladowsky said:
I ran across this reading this thread (duh) and realize it is months old, but was excited that someone else uses 2 - 2x10 cabs. Here's my setup but I'm deciding on a good tube (preamp at least) amp.


Amp: Genz Benz GBE1200? - undecided but need 500-800W at 8 ohms

Cabs: 2 - Bag End D10XBs wired to 16 ohms
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Nice.I run a gbe 1200 with a 810....With just 210's thats mad power for those cabs.Sweet rig!!

Hooowa!
 
#366
I downsized 1.5 years ago then just recently upsized.

Went from a GK1001RBII and SWR Goliath 6X10"

to a GK MB2-500 and an EarCandy BassBomb 2X12"

just recently went

to an Ampeg V-4B, Avatar 2X12" & Ibanez 1X15"

....I'm always rolling gear so I'll prolly downsize again at some point.
 
#367
I always want a smaller rig (because 5 trips to my car during setup kills my body), and then I end up in a situation like I did the other night at a gig, and I'm glad I have that 287-lb rig behind me.


Soundguy: This XLR cable sucks **plugs it into my RBI anyway*

(fast-forward to soundcheck)

Soundguy: Okay, bass?
Me: **plays**
Soundguy: **cringes at terrible buzz through PA** That's coming from your amp.
Me: Really? Are you sure it's not from the bad XLR you told me you had when you plugged me in?
Soundguy: No, that's your amp.
Me: **turns preamp off** Now are you sure it's not from the bad XLR you told me you had when you plugged me in?
Soundguy: **unplugs me, shrugs** Looks like your amp is going to be the bass' PA tonight.


I run a 4x10 and an 1x18 through a stereo power amp that pumps out 900W per channel into each cab, so I wasn't worried about it, but it did kill the low stage volume that we try to maintain.
 
#368
I use a GK 2001rb through a GK Neo 410 plenty loud. I have tried the 410 & 115 set up and the 810 set up. I actually bought my 810 Harke off of Todd Evans aka Beefcake from GWAR. I sold it because it was a pain to take to shows;:bassist: I actually had to pull door panels off my car to put it in the back seat of my Camary.
 
#369
Must admit, I picked up my carvin 2x10 and 6 pound bx500 due to dude in the video saying how he can put the amp in a shoulder bag, and make one trip from the car and be all set.

Now I had a church gig for a few years, and the 18 inch carvin refrigerator was simply rolled in and out of on-site storage, but getting it in the car was a real bear. While I dream of a gig big enough to need all that power, I wanted to have something portable when I got the 2x10.

Back in the day when I played guitar, I remember how much we loved to have the marshall stack on stage, but when it came time to pack up, not so much. Let's face it, you can get a lot of guitar power into a small amp, and very few of us play a large enough room to require a marshall stack anyway--usually get complaints from band and audience that it is too loud.

Anyway, it takes a lot more bass power to equal the apparent loudness of a 25 watt guitar, so we will always need bigger rigs than a guitarist. Just be glad you aren't a hammond b3 player...

On the other hand, due to the cooperative nature of things in many bands, if you have less gear to haul, you will end up spending more time hauling the other guy's junk. ;)
 
#370
Walking said:
Must admit, I picked up my carvin 2x10 and 6 pound bx500 due to dude in the video saying how he can put the amp in a shoulder bag, and make one trip from the car and be all set.
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+1, I started doing this last fall (and we're a LOUD original rock band). I've done several shows with other bands who insisted on 8X10 cabs and 80% of the bass players from these bands have come up to me afterwards to find out what I was using because it sounded great and could be heard throughout the venue. I ask each one of 'em to pick up my rig with one hand and it always gets a smile.
 
#371
s_mcsleazy said:
ok i used to play in a metal band and let me tell you to get a good metal tone you dont need a 8x10 and 10000000000 watts

i used a fender bassman 50 with a 1x15 ashdown and a 2x10 ashdown and i actually managed to do ok.

ok i did have to mic up to the pa but im really not bothered. my rig isnt small (because micro rigs in the uk are more expencive than 8x10s) but its defo not big.

plus no offence to you but you clearly dont know how to get the most out of your EQ settings if you think power is more effective
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Hopefully this isnt aimed at anyone who likes at least SOME bass in their signal...?
 
#373
haha, ive just got into a new band, and really wanna get a 4x12!! but maybe just settle for a 6x10! ;)

But seriously, the light gear is astonising how loud and clear it is for its size! but i think image and sound reproduction is still firmly still in the old technology. Still think the heavier stuff has a better sound.
 
#374
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200lbs of awesome.
 
#378
I injured my back when I was 17, trying to save my twin 15 cab after someone pushed past me on the stairs. Ever since, I've been dealing with chronic lower back pain. If I knew then what I know now, I would have been tempted to let the darn cab go, and allow the dummy who pushed by me to soften its fall!

I'm a big guy, so I can easily lift and manipulate 100lb cabinets, but one wrong step, and I'm bedridden for days. My maximum "safe" weight limit is only about 40lb per item, so I try and work with the lightest gear possible. I work a lot of casuals, where there's a lot of schlepping involved, and it's not always possible to get a hand with my gear.

YMMV, but I've actually found that the best tone and dispersion usually comes from cabs with the lowest cone count for a given purpose. For instance, I would much rather listen to an Accugroove Tri-112 than just about any 4*10.

But when it comes to moving air, things are different. Most small, toneful rigs don't give you the brute force sensation that you get when you're standing in front of a fridge...
 
#379
Theres nothing more id like to do than strap up my modulus and plug in to 6**gk 2001 heads with 6 gk 8x10 or any massive wall of amp's..I have done the mesa 400 with the 2x15 the eden wt800 with the aggy 4x12 and every time we played they just plugged in a DI ...theres a couple of reasons why i went with smaller gear .
1- we are a 5 piece band ..most clubs stages are pretty tight
2- i dont have to make 5 trips to the uhaul i had to rent to play a sat gig.
3- i actually like the tone i get out of my current rig

so looking back ...its great to have that gear and if i ever had to play in a stadium ...i could dust of some options that i have ...but the rig i use is plenty loud .great tone and super lightweight...and it all fits in my trunk of my car

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