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Expensive vs inexpensive basses

What you’re really getting is something you won’t understand until you’ve walked down that road.

Let’s say you’ve never tasted a Ghirardelli Chocolate Truffle. However, you’ve had a Hershey Chocolate Bar and now you think you know what all chocolate tastes like. Then, when someone tries to explain it to you, you claim you already know it’s not worth it.

Let’s say you’ve never been to Disney Land. But you’ve been to Magic Mountain and now you think you know what all amusement parks are like. Then, when someone tries to explain it to you, you claim you already know it’s not worth it.
Great analogy though!
 
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But I can clearly see what a waste of money is. It’s a friggin’ bass guitar. Hey I’m not judging but when it come to Basses and even things like cars paying a small fortune for something that is built for form over function is just living in excess and a waste of money but hey I guess that what the cool kids are into.
Whew, good thing you’re not judging.
 
Now, this is just my opinion and, and we all know how much opinions matter, but...

A couple weeks ago I was in a very nice (relatively speaking) GC in Salt Lake. I sat down and got to play, one after the other, an $550 (new) ESP LTD B-206SM and a $3000 (used) German Warwick Corvette 6 string.

In that 15 minutes or I got a very good idea of difference in quality and playability between those two guitars, not to mention sound (I piped both of them through an Ampeg combo that was conveniently located right in front of me). It was not even a comparison. The Warwick was leagues ahead of the LTD. Its design also suited my playing style significantly better than the Ibanez BTB I tried as well. For further comparison, I picked up a G&L L2000 that was noticeably more pleasant to play than my $900 Schecters. Playability is only SORT OF subjective. The design, hardware, and construction quality of a high end instrument can make a lot of difference.

But it's valid to say the cost to does not justify the benefits for some people. I'm not a professional musician. I could probably sneak a $2k bass by the wife without danger of divorce proceedings. But any more than that and I'd legitimately wonder if I'm even worth it.

...Sometimes I think the $900 guitars area a stretch.
 
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Now, this is just my opinion and, and we all know how much opinions matter, but...

A couple weeks ago I was in a very nice (relatively speaking) GC in Salt Lake. I sat down and got to play, one after the other, an $550 (new) ESP LTD B-206SM and a $3000 (used) German Warwick Corvette 6 string.

$3,000.00 for a used Warwick Corvette??? Where do you shop, Neiman Marcus? $1,500.00 would be a “maybe”. That’s a steep mark up, dude.
 
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$3,000.00 for a used Warwick Corvette??? Where do you shop, Newman Marcus? $1,500.00 would be a “maybe”. That’s a steep mark up, dude.

I'm no Warwick aficionado, he could've called it anything when he handed it to me. I swear I heard the guy say "Corvette," but it was actually this exact bass. Which is apparently a Pro Series Streamer, not a Corvette. Please forgive my ignorance of finer bass guitars.

edit: That's the GC in Taylorsville, off the 215 freeway close to the airport, if any you Utah TBers got $3k burning a hole in your pocket.

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I wouldn’t even consider it, not the caliber of gigs I’m doing these days. Maybe if we were getting paid a grand a night, but that ain’t happening.
For many years all I had to play out with was a cheap 1967 Rickenbacker 4005WB, it saw duty from college dive bars to large festivals. What was I to do, it was all I had? :D

But I can clearly see what a waste of money is. It’s a friggin’ bass guitar. Hey I’m not judging but when it come to Basses and even things like cars paying a small fortune for something that is built for form over function is just living in excess and a waste of money but hey I guess that what the cool kids are into.
But with this statement you are, indeed, being judgmental.
 
For many years all I had to play out with was a cheap 1967 Rickenbacker 4005WB, it saw duty from college dive bars to large festivals. What was I to do, it was all I had?

I had the same issue with a Steinberger L2. Had just the one bass for over twenty years. You play what you have. But nowadays there’s so much good cheap stuff out there that I can gig a $179 dollar bass and keep my expensive, and more to the point for me these days, utterly irreplaceable Steiny at home.
 
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I had the same issue with a Steinberger L2. Had just the one bass for over twenty years. You play what you have. But nowadays there’s so much good cheap stuff out there that I can gig a $179 dollar bass and keep my expensive, and more to the point for me these days, utterly irreplaceable Steiny at home.
My 4005WB cost me less than that! :hyper:
 
Im going to go out on a limb here and legitimately reply to the OP.
I totally understand your thoughts and I have friends that share your opinion. But... what I've noticed is that they all have something in common. They tend to play rather slowly..... and chill.... and mosey along the bottom end of each song. Nothing wrong with it at all.... they play well and yes... they get a great tone. One of them steps about some half notes while doing the country thing and another is in whole note heaven while backing some acoustics...... but that is what I've noticed. They tend to never play with any real speed or technique that a cheap bass would impede.
Personally, Im in a number of projects that vary quite a bit. Some instrumental fusion/jazzy stuff, some rock, some acoustic, hip hop and some black metal. I have noticed that you can get some great tone out of a cheap bass these days but I also notice that once im slapping or doing some popping/triplets, tapping.... any of that stuff... or even doing some quicker fills and leads... that the limits of the instrument really start to come out. Every time I play my Lull... I know that any mistakes are 100% on me because I can play to the absolute limit of my abilities on that bass. While on some others... I cant.
 
I've played both high end and low end basses in my day and I have to say I'm getting a pretty good sound and feel out of some less costly basses . The latest addition to my arsenal is a very inexpensive bass . An Ibanez GSR200SM . My wife bought this for me for Xmas a couple of years ago . I don't know what she paid for it . I think it was a "Stupid deal of the day" from Musicians Friend . She said she liked the way it looked . So did I for that matter . After disabling that crappy active PhatII EQ (The pickups are actually passive) it's turning out to be a very good bass . The construction is solid and it feels and sounds great . I find myself using it more often than my other 4s . Furthermore , it came out of the box completely set up . The action and the intonation were on the mark . So you can keep your Foderas , Alembics , etc . I'm happy .

I make a lot of money and can buy expensive instruments and amps.
 
Even Ibanez's cheap stuff feels and plays good. If that works for the OP, then it works. It was only after getting my dream US built bass that I realized my low priced Asian builds weren't holding me back... however my American bass is still better in every conceivable way and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead hands if you want me to give it up.
 
As soon as you buy a fender it's used and it's worth hundreds less. Worse yet, you mostly don't even lose said hundreds on cheap instruments.

In terms of percentage, boutique brands are going to save most of their worth, but higher end fenders, ibanez, etc, don't come close in terms of resale value, and worse YET, cheap guitars, although losing more value percentage wise, still end up losing less of the actual value. Hell, even a boutique guitar that loses $500 of its value over time will cost you more than reselling a cheap knockoff, and here's why:

You can sell a used GIO bass/guitar for $100 if it's in good condition, even though you bought it for $200 new. That's a crazy 50% price drop! Even if you end up selling it for $50, which is likely considering those end up being (ab)used by the time they are sold, that means you lost $150 on the trade, which is 75% of the value!

But if you buy a new ibanez prestige for $1500, you're likely going to sell it for no more than $1000, so you lose 5x as much money by selling a gsr180 in a good trade, or 2.5x as much in case of a bad trade for GSR180.

Hell, even if you end up selling the prestige for $1200, which you likely listed it for, then you're losing $300, which is 1.5x the total price of the gsr180!

I have no idea where this "you lose less money on trading high quality gear" myth comes from, it's really weird that people who spread such nonsense don't think twice about this. When there's more money involved, you lose more money, it's that simple. Even if ratios shift in favor of high end gear, the actual amounts are completely different.
whatever dude. i just took a squier afiinity p bass and an 90’s epiphone accu bass that ive had in a closet colecting dust, both in playing condition, to two different poular music stores. i could not give them away. literally they wouldn’t take them for FREE. they have too many low end instruments in there already and dont need any more boat anchors. but im pretty sure i can turn a 77 pbass back into 1200-1500 pretty easily.