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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing

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Fender is so popular because when the electric guitar was still a relatively new instrument, the came up with the Precision Bass. While it's not my cup of tea, for the new music that was emerging, it was a very useful instrument. Reasonably comfortable to play, easy to maintain, simple to record and very portable. This predated the bass guitars of the other main manufacturers of electric instruments.

And then they made the Jazz Bass, which personally I like a lot better than the P-bass, and which most people would agree is a good design, also fairly comfy to play, and with lots of good tones to use.

So, when other companies were just starting to release their first electric basses, Fender already had two solid designs under their belt. Many people had already fallen in love with the P and the J, and so they became a bit of a standard, by virtue of being basically the only things around in numbers in those early years. And in the intervening years, Fender has made a lot of them.

Today, Fender is a very safe choice for showing up to a gig. While many people might not be that wowed, pretty much nobody will balk at the choice of one.

Do I think they're the best? No, not at all. But their place in history can't be denied, so now it's sort of a "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" thing.

Though quite a few companies have basically made a business out of "fixing it," (Sadowsky, Lakland, etc.), it's interesting to note that most models are based off of those two designs (or a combination thereof).


If salespeople at music shops are constantly trying to push Fenders you don't want on you, just say flat out "I don't want a Fender." Say it clearly and with a certain finality. They will probably get the message.
 
They aren't the be all and end all.....Just the start and the finish. Like the man said, if you have to ask...

I do own, and enjoy playing other basses, my Hofner, and old Peavey Foundation, some Danos and Dano made basses, but like I told a friend last night, if the house catches fire, I'm grabbing the 08 CS Jazz in one hand, the late 60's P bass in the other and running out the door. I'll come back for the Hofner, then the cats (lots of cats), then the original Beatles and Stones vinyl. Then if the damn FD hasn't shown up, and there isn't too much smoke and heat, I'll come back for the wife.

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Well, regarding the 'big deal' with Fender in general, Leo Fender invented and developed
the first fretted electric bass, P-bass (tele and regular), Jazz bass, Music Man bass, Telecaster guitar, Strat, Jag ... Bassman amp, Twin/Showman/Bandmaster/Princeton ... the Music Man amps, lots of great steel guitars, he funded, backed and manufactured the Rhodes electric piano ...
That basically makes that quiet rolly-polly old guy the biggest swinging d*ck on earth regarding modern electric musical instruments. He ruled, others drooled. The man was a fountainhead of productive creativity and innovation. A true American original.
As far as 5-strings go, that was after Leo's time and I'd probably get something other than "Fender".
I've been poking around music stores in search for the ultimate 5 string, and everywhere I go somebody, be it hired help or just interested parties is trying to jam some Fender or another down my throat. Just so's you know, I only looked at the higher end models, so no Squires. Sorry, give me made here or go away, anyway, under the 'bang for your buck' in looks, finish, playability,weight I find they're wanting, not to mention the damn things eat up a lot of real estate. So someone explain why all the hype? Or has Uncle Leo worked the hoodoo on you too?
 
Well, regarding the 'big deal' with Fender in general, Leo Fender invented and developed
the first fretted electric bass, P-bass (tele and regular), Jazz bass, Music Man bass, Telecaster guitar, Strat, Jag ... Bassman amp, Twin/Showman/Bandmaster/Princeton ... The Music Man amps, lots of great steel guitars, he funded and backed the Rhodes electric piano ...
That basically makes that quiet rolly-polly old guy the biggest swinging d*ck on earth regarding modern electric musical instruments. He ruled, others drooled.
As far as 5-strings go, that was after Leo's time and I'd probably get something other than "Fender".
By that argument, we should all be driving Fords, no? Not the modern Fords, but the same old rehashed stuff from forever ago.
 
Fender is the Tolkien of the guitar/bass world (odd to compare the two but as a literary geek it's the exact same feeling I get). It wasn't the first of its kind, but it was the first one everyone got shoved down their throat - probably because it was practical in build, affordable, and made decently.

I've never cared much for them. Maybe it's because all the ones I've played have just sounded "meh" to me and felt too chunky. But if other people like them - great!

I just really wish the stores here would carry something else, too. All they carry is Fender. It's one thing to carry a popular brand and another not to allow any choice in the matter of what you can purchase.
 
Well, regarding the 'big deal' with Fender in general, Leo Fender invented and developed
the first fretted electric bass, P-bass (tele and regular), Jazz bass, Music Man bass, Telecaster guitar, Strat, Jag ... Bassman amp, Twin/Showman/Bandmaster/Princeton ... the Music Man amps, lots of great steel guitars, he funded, backed and manufactured the Rhodes electric piano ...
That basically makes that quiet rolly-polly old guy the biggest swinging d*ck on earth regarding modern electric musical instruments. He ruled, others drooled. The man was a fountainhead of productive creativity and innovation. A true American original.
As far as 5-strings go, that was after Leo's time and I'd probably get something other than "Fender".

I agree except he did have a 5-string in the sixties.

Fenders are of course mass produced and I have to play a lot of them to find the one that speaks to my personal, wow.
 
I'm really surprised that so many Fender fans don't know that Paul Tutmarc invented the electric bass. The first solid body, horizontally held, fretted, electric bass was Paul Tutmarc's "Electronic Bass Fiddle", model #736.

Here's a picture of model 736:
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Here's his son, Bud, describing his dad's inventions:

http://tutmarc.tripod.com/paultutmarc.html

Leo deserves credit for "being in the right place at the right time" and for figuring out how to cheaply mass produce instruments with bolt-on necks, and he was very wise to listen to players and modify his products until they met those player's needs, but he definitely did not invent the electric bass.
 
I'm really surprised that so many Fender fans don't know that Paul Tutmarc invented the electric bass. The first solid body, horizontally held, fretted, electric bass was Paul Tutmarc's "Electronic Bass Fiddle", model #736.

Here's a picture of model 736:
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Here's his son, Bud, describing his dad's inventions:

http://tutmarc.tripod.com/paultutmarc.html

Leo deserves credit for "being in the right place at the right time" and for figuring out how to cheaply mass produce instruments with bolt-on necks, and he was very wise to listen to players and modify his products until they met those player's needs, but he definitely did not invent the electric bass.

Rb1, I was just about to post about Tutmarc's contribution.

You beat me to it. :)
 
Maybe you should switch stores? I have never been in a music shop and had anybody push any particular brand on me. When they say the usual ' can I help you '? I respond by saying that I'll look for something I like and let em know. Just my 2 cents.......
 
I'd just like to add that the fact that Leo put the electric bass on the map make for mojo, but has absolutely nothing to do with choosing a Fender bass TODAY, if sound, ergonomics and other measures of quality are to be the barometer of what's good. The history influences fashion, but makes no contribution to substance.
 
IMO this oughtta be a sticky. Misconceptions (like Leo inventing the electric bass) easily become perceived truth when repeated often enough.

I'm really surprised that so many Fender fans don't know that Paul Tutmarc invented the electric bass. The first solid body, horizontally held, fretted, electric bass was Paul Tutmarc's "Electronic Bass Fiddle", model #736.

Here's a picture of model 736:
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Here's his son, Bud, describing his dad's inventions:

http://tutmarc.tripod.com/paultutmarc.html

Leo deserves credit for "being in the right place at the right time" and for figuring out how to cheaply mass produce instruments with bolt-on necks, and he was very wise to listen to players and modify his products until they met those player's needs, but he definitely did not invent the electric bass.
 
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