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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing

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#141
Febs said:
So, just out of curiosity, when you copied this paragraph from Wikipedia, why did you change the last sentence? In the Wikipedia article, it says, "His Fender Precision Bass, introduced in 1951, became a widely copied industry standard."
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So?
about 80% of people on talkbass know when it was invented.

Nice try though.
 
#142
Febs said:
So, just out of curiosity, when you copied this paragraph from Wikipedia, why did you change the last sentence? In the Wikipedia article, it says, "His Fender Precision Bass, introduced in 1951, became a widely copied industry standard."
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that has already been beat into the ground dug up and beat into the ground again...lol

and it was widely copied because it was the only game in town at the time and an industry standard because he practically invented the industry itself....that was not in contest......he just wanted to know who invented the first bass

William S. Harley and Arthur Davidson didn't invent the motorcycle either but what is the first name you think of when the word motorcycle is spoken and what image do you see (especially in the U.S).....Marlon Brando on a Harley? Peter Fonda on a Harley? At one time they were that largest and most popular brand of motorcycle in the world and just about invented the industry as well for mass produced motorcycles...

yet we know that Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha are better built and utilize a more modern and efficient design and yet they still try to copy the look of a Harley for their cruising and touring bikes

still doesn't change the fact that i don't like Fenders :D and never will.

plus since it had already been posted several times it was just quick and easy to cut and paste. besides we all know wiki articles need to be edited....lol

burn? whatever....lol
 
#143
Sparkdog said:
I have a bunch of basses, including Music Man, G&L, and Laklands. Those are great instruments and I love playing them, but if the guy who is paying me wants me to use a Fender, I'm not going to argue with him.
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LOL!

Your "other" basses:
Music Man - Leo Fender company
G&L - Leo Fender company
Lakland - high-end Fender copy

And you say you'll play a ... Fender if required.

Leo IS master of the bass universe!

Bow down you chumps! 'cause Leo IS God.
You too banana man. Leo needs some love.
BOW DOWN! Aaaaahahahahaha!
 
#149
Fender=Hype. . .generated by over 5 decades of recordings, promotion, and use by professionals. Do i mean it's an undeserved hype, no, does that make them a "better" instrument because of the hype, no, it's just means they were the first popular brand name and the longest running to date. I have played tons of fenders over the years including old vintage "magical" fenders(by the owners standards) and have never been impressed, mostly because of their uncomfortable neck(IMO), ridiculously heavy weight, and their lack of versatility sound wise(IMO), now IMO J's were always a step up from P's but i never dug um, just weren't for me.

Now I've noticed that most people are responding to the OP like he wants a "Fender Type" bass but is this actually the case?? I personally will stand behind my 2000 Peavy Cirrus 5 and put it against a Jazz 5 any day as it'll run circles around it as far as(all IMO) looks, sound flexibility, playability, and comfort:hiding: and best of all it's made right here in the US of A
 
#150
Febs said:
My God, you people are defensive. I wasn't trying to "burn" you. I was just curious as to why you changed that particular sentence, since it seems to be the most relevant to the original question. But thank you for answering.
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sorry it is hard to read someone's tone and intent over the internet.....but we are defensive as we usually get a beat down from the Fender Mafia on a regular basis on this forum....

I'm with the OP i just don't get it...

Why play a bass i don't like just beacuse everyone expects you to.....or because everyone else does?

you can see by my sig that i play three of the most hated and made fun of brands on the planet.....
 
#152
Honestly, guys, why are we arguing about this stupid stuff? Leo Fender made the industry standard in electric basses. That's without question. Fender's been around the longest and is the most familiar.

There are basically two sides in this thread, people who play Fender's and like them, and those that play basses of the same price or boutique basses, then complain about the price of Fender's, even though their bass costs 3 times that of an American Standard.

So lets just drop it guys. It's really not that big of a deal.
 
#153
Fenders are the right instruments for many people. For many others, they are not. Just like some people drive Fords, some Chevys, and some prefer Jaguars, etc.

I've never owned a Fender, and the closest thing I have to one I'm modding in a way that will make it very unlike the P-bass it was originally a copy of (though a copy with a more sleek looking body shape, I must say). Eventually, if I have the money, I might buy a Jazz Bass, because those are kinda cool, but I might not.
 
#156
Captain_Arrrg said:
Still not as bad as the mental gymnastics some perform to be able to believe that Leo Fender "invented" the electric bass. :scowl:
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Well I'm one of the folks that has argued that. I've actually learned a few things on this thread. While I knew that previous "electric basses" existed, I did not know that a "guitar style" solidbody, fretted four string electric bass previously existed.

But let's not lose the plot. Let me adjust my language to be more specific. Leo Fender is clearly the father of the instrument we all know as the Electric Bass Guitar.

There was no standard for such an instrument before Leo came around. There were various electric versions of a low octave guitar, or an electric "double bass" but these units were dissimilar to each other in very fundamental ways, and did not have serious market presence.

A bass has 34 inch scale as a normal standard because that's where Leo landed. It has 4 strings tuned EADG as a standard for the same reason. It has frets for the same reason. It is strung around your neck and played as a guitar for the same reason.

Perhaps he didn't invent all of these in the sense that nobody thought of them first. In fact as it turns out, several of these attributes were put together by a single individual 20 years previously.

But it went nowhere didn't it?

When Leo came around, there was competition, but there was no serious competing design that was "fighting for the standard" (like Blu-Ray and HD DVD). The "competition" was the double bass and inertia behind not changing.

If Leo didn't do what he did for the bass - does that mean that Geddy Lee would be banging out 2112 on a double bass? No, something else would have been developed.

But would it so closely resemble what we know and love as the "Bass Guitar". Perhaps yes, perhaps no.

So did Leo Fender "invent" the instrument we now know as the electric bass? I guess technically the answer is no. But there is no doubt, he is the father of the bass.
 
#157
I used to be a 7ender basher, but now I have a MIJ '62 7ender JB I love them. Especially the Japanese 7enders. Jazz Basses only, by the way.

I owned some JB's, but this is my first 7ender of this type. The others were an ash bodied Ibanez with rosewood neck and block inlays and a Tokai Jazz Sound with poplar body. Compared with these the 7ender wins gloriously.

The MIA 7enders are too expensive i.m.o.
 
#158
These Fender forums are so predictable they've become boring.

Typical Question: Why does everyone love Fender cause I don't and what's the big deal anyway??

First set of answers: They're solid and have great sound and playability fit and finish, great price range (lower end to high end), lots of finishes and neck combinations available, have been used by professionals for years and years. tone.

Second set of answers once the OP has chimed in again:
What do you mean they sound bland? elaborate what you mean by one-trick pony...overpriced?...you are buying a bass not a pack of strings....studio engineers demand them because they ARE the best......

Final set of answers once other non Fender lovers have offerred their views:

....would rather be killed by a Fender falling on my head than play your brand of bass... ...Fender basses record better and are guaranteed to make you a better player.. Most of the good players I have seen all played Fenders, the others all sucked...... Wikipedia said Fender invented the electric bass and I believe them.....what do ya mean you don't like Geddy Lee???.... my Squier smokes any boutique bass out there...I d rather play the ugliest Fender than date your prettiest sister...


As previous posters have said....if u don't get it, don't ask why because you never will. Find a bass you get......
 
#160
Drunk Heffalump said:
I've been poking around music stores in search for the ultimate 5 string, and everywhere I go somebody, be it hired help or just interested parties is trying to jam some Fender or another down my throat. Just so's you know, I only looked at the higher end models, so no Squires. Sorry, give me made here or go away, anyway, under the 'bang for your buck' in looks, finish, playability,weight I find they're wanting, not to mention the damn things eat up a lot of real estate. So someone explain why all the hype? Or has Uncle Leo worked the hoodoo on you too?
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I used to say the same thing when riding my Honda's and Kawasaki's.... Got a Harley and never went back.
Nothing wrong with rice burners if that's what you want.
Fender Rocks... oh and btw so does my Squier.
 
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