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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing

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#181
Eric618 said:
You're right. I wish I had a Fender instead of this ugly thing. I guess I can dream, right? :atoz:


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Well I'm no Fender fanboy. But perhaps you misunderstood my statement... i didn't bring looks into it. :rolleyes:

I was talking about popularity. And that means, yes, Conklin for example, isn't as popular as Fender.

definition : Fanboy (any individual who is devoted to a single subject in an emotional or fanatical manner, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession).

Since we have both (pro-fender and anti-fender) fanboys... we get topics like these.

mmmm... carp...
 
#182
Well we believe that Fenders were built, and that they were very good basses, but they were not our messiah :D

Fenders are just a "classic" tone, sort of like tube heads. Like someone said above, you know what to expect when you plug a p-bass into an SVT. In that regard, there is a sense of security and confidence in the sound that you will get...it will be generally regarded as a "good sound" by most listeners, musicians and non-musicians alike. I myself sometimes get very tired of hearing that quirky active/active tone that some bassists use...such as:
(he picks up the bass after a little while, just be patient)

Maybe it's because of what we grew up with, the active tone just totally disgusts me sometimes. Anyhow, fenders aren't bad...just something that most people know will sound good. That having been said, they have their place.
 
#184
Mr_Sore_Fingerz said:
Well we believe that Fenders were built, and that they were very good basses, but they were not our messiah :D

Fenders are just a "classic" tone, sort of like tube heads. Like someone said above, you know what to expect when you plug a p-bass into an SVT. In that regard, there is a sense of security and confidence in the sound that you will get...it will be generally regarded as a "good sound" by most listeners, musicians and non-musicians alike. I myself sometimes get very tired of hearing that quirky active/active tone that some bassists use...such as:
(he picks up the bass after a little while, just be patient)

Maybe it's because of what we grew up with, the active tone just totally disgusts me sometimes. Anyhow, fenders aren't bad...just something that most people know will sound good. That having been said, they have their place.
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I don't think an Am Dlx P-bass is considered "vintage tone" :P
 
#188
Drunk-
I played for over 25 years until I owned a Fender. Now it's my primary bass. It just seems to fit me, both eronomically and tone wise. But that's just me.
But to respond to jamming a Fender down your throat....
Fender has been successful for a number of reasons with sales channel and marketing being very important. I would venture to guess that the staff at the music store might receive some kind of special compenstion when they sell a Fender. Plus they might be more familiar with Fenders than other brands. Or maybe they have a higher margin or the Fender reps brought sandwiches or sponsored a happy hour when they came by.
Maybe some of our music store friends could provide some insight.
 
#189
When I first picked up bass, I wouldnt touch a fender with a 10 foot pole. I thought they were ugly, sounded like crap, and played badly. I played mostly ibanez, with my favorite being my btb455qm. Then a bandmate said that if I would switch to fenders, he would buy the first one. Figured I had nothing to lose and I got free bass, why not.

First practice with my new jazz, halfway through the first song, I had the biggest "well no wonder everyone plays these"

Haven't looked back since.

Doing the same thing with Ampeg right now. Used to avoid like crazy, but finally broke down and bought a 8x10, and it blows away my old avatar cabs. Its closer to my tone. Now maybe I need to ditch my pre/power setup for a svt.......
 
#191
I do enjoy reading the personal antedotes, but, really, they aren't valid as 'arguments.' It's great that you guys have had positive experiences, but they don't quite relate to me--or the next guy.

I feel like a broken record, and actually I'm proud of myself for staying out of it this long---but---Everyone makes different music and has different needs. What works for one person may not work for the next. Break it down further, and what works for one person for one gig, might not work for the same person on a different gig, dig?
 
#192
NickyBass said:
I do enjoy reading the personal antedotes, but, really, they aren't valid as 'arguments.' It's great that you guys have had positive experiences, but they don't quite relate to me--or the next guy.

I feel like a broken record, and actually I'm proud of myself for staying out of it this long---but---Everyone makes different music and has different needs. What works for one person may not work for the next. Break it down further, and what works for one person for one gig, might not work for the same person on a different gig, dig?
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+1.

But, I guess some people never tire of it, though. Just take the "Cover Bands Are Worthless" thread down in Band Management right now, as another fine example.............:)
 
#193
Kenbuntu said:
What's wrong here:

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or even here:

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and thats just the back of this!
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I do, however agree that the Ibanez guitars are amazing. RG's = the best in the world.


and yes, this thread needed some pics.
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I definitely think ibanez dollar for dollar will blow away ANY fender on the market, even maybe not dollar for dollar, but outright.
 
#194
I haven't read all the posts but my feeling on it is that I like Fender 4 string basses a lot, but am on the fence at best on the 5ers. A 4 string P for me is about as good as it gets, more expensive basses are just shinier. The 5 string Fenders I've tried haven't won me over the same way, so I stick to my Warwicks when I want a low B; I still get a bit of the growl Ps can give while having a neck shape I find comfortable, good balance (Streamer) and decent weight.
 
#196
harrison_faulkn said:
When I first picked up bass, I wouldnt touch a fender with a 10 foot pole. I thought they were ugly, sounded like crap, and played badly. I played mostly ibanez, with my favorite being my btb455qm. Then a bandmate said that if I would switch to fenders, he would buy the first one. Figured I had nothing to lose and I got free bass, why not.

First practice with my new jazz, halfway through the first song, I had the biggest "well no wonder everyone plays these"

Haven't looked back since.

Doing the same thing with Ampeg right now. Used to avoid like crazy, but finally broke down and bought a 8x10, and it blows away my old avatar cabs. Its closer to my tone. Now maybe I need to ditch my pre/power setup for a svt.......
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well, you wernt doing yourself any favors being a Trace team member:hiding:
 
#197
Drunk Heffalump said:
I've been poking around music stores in search for the ultimate 5 string, and everywhere I go somebody, be it hired help or just interested parties is trying to jam some Fender or another down my throat. Just so's you know, I only looked at the higher end models, so no Squires. Sorry, give me made here or go away, anyway, under the 'bang for your buck' in looks, finish, playability,weight I find they're wanting, not to mention the damn things eat up a lot of real estate. So someone explain why all the hype? Or has Uncle Leo worked the hoodoo on you too?
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Dont know.. nice basses I guess they sure look cool but I just dont think they are worth what they are currently asking for. Even the mexican standard basses ar like 650$ wth? I got one a couple of years ago for like 400 bucks and I regreted spending that much on it then. Dont get me wrong the American standards are really nice basses ive played quite a few but 1500??? ridiculous
 
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