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Originally posted by embellisher
I've got Warrior working on my new signature instrument now, it's based on the 14 string, but it only has one neck and has tripled strings. I believe that it will be the first 42 string bass ever made. It will also have a deep cutaway like a Zon Hyperbass to facilitate access to all 42 frets.

The low G# string has 9 layers of winding, gauge is .217. It has a titanium core, but the windings are made of a uranium/nickel/magnetite alloy.

I have to wear special lead lined gloves to play it, so that I won't get cancer in me fingers from overexposure to radiation.

The real chore was getting Lightwave to design a pickup that has sensors for 42 individual strings! It wasn't cheap, let me tell you! They said that it was impossible, but with enough coaxing and cajoling(and $$$;)) I was able to get them to do it.

Build time is 6 months, and it's costing me $18,000, but it will be worth it! I can't wait to get my hands on it!

Oh yeah, it has a graphite neck, velvet coated phenowood board and an aluminum body with a machined steel top.

:eek:
 
Originally posted by luisnovelo
Check it.. this looks more logic..



C# (D -half step)
G# (A -half step)
E
B
F
C#
G#

There you have 7 strings... If they are doubled we have 14 in each neck


The idea of a double neck with 14 single strings with a low G# below the low F# and low C# on
each sounds stupid and ridiculously imposible..

I hope is not warriorbass' idea.. :rolleyes:

Assuming you meant G# C# F# B E G# C# . . .yeah, that almost does make sense! :eek:

:)
 
Hi again !

You didn't quite understand my posting =). I said I'm in contact with Warrior and if they say "Not possible" it's no problem. I said with no word that I already own this one.
About the number of basses I own : My father and I run a musicians store. I do not have that much at home o_O.
At home, that means my personal, are an used Signature 9 by Warrior, a Warwick Streamer LX Broadneck 6-string and Fender Standart Jazz Bass (4-strings)
My amp is an Ampeg SVT4Pro that powers two Warwick Terminator Boxes

Best regards,

WarriorBass
 
It was just a plain design of me like little boys dream of sth...I knew with a quote of 99.999% that this wouldn't work. I just asked you about your opinions and everything I get is offended. Man I just wanted a discussion about :" How far you can push the electric bass before it reaches its limits" but probably some of you did not understand this.
I don't wanna make fun of you or sth. I'm a serious bass player and i think most of you too so let's get down to a serious discussion
 
Hm, ok.
My irks with this:

This is a very daring idea in terms of bass construction. It's very likely to to fail, at least on the first try,so why a double-neck rightaway?
Let them do a single-neck first, that way you'll loose less money. That double-neck will be too big and heavy to be of any practical use.
Dreams are ok, but for experiments like that I wouldn't hire a builder who's 1000+ miles away on another continent.

Where are you in Germany, what bands are you in? Just curious.
 
We could speak german but to keep the others in the discussion I won't =).
I am located at Stuttgart and I play in a NuMetal Band (Slipknot, Korn, etc. Style) called Blunt, a nice prog rock band called Blue Diva and a Jazz Combo of the music school where I give bass lessons.
And you ? What's your setup, what do you think of mine, your bands and so on :-)
 
Originally posted by WarriorBass
Oystershell , read the posts above. I run a music store so I do own all these basses but I personally use only three
Warlord Maize, I thought it worked so that the company owned the basses and not you personally, but then I don't know your business. Alright.
 
If that is what you need, then fine. For me personally, the fewer strings that can get the job done, the better. 11 strings on one neck seems gigantic for most applications. Granted, there are guys out there that use 7, 8, 9 or more strings. But I think they are in a large minority to the number of people who are actually playing them.

My personal feeling on an 11 string, 36 fret fretless bass with a 36" scale is that it is going to weigh 12-15 pounds and it will be one beast to play in the lower register. I played a seven string Conklin and found reaching the B string and playing smoothly on it to require a lot of reaching. I probably couldn't physically play the bass your are suggesting.

Hey, if you can play it, and can fire up all the strings, I would love to hear you play. I will be sticking to 7 or less for the time being.

Geoff
 
wheres Turnip jones? I liked his first post in here... where did he go?

Seriously man.. Saying you own 46 basses because they are in your fathers music store is soulfully wrong....

I am a billionair.. what i mean is i calculated the income of my entire faimly and it came out to an astounding figure... I could by as many 98 string basses as i want.. but I just decided to live off my meager income :rolleyes:
 
As I have been reading through this post I got to thinking about 7+ strings and the "step neck" bass that a luthier made for Victor Wooten.

In regards to the scale length issue, with respect to the limitations of string gauges, would a "step neck" style instrument be the answer here?

Lets say... a 13 string, *not* doubled going from Low C# up but at some point, having the neck scale reduce to 25" or lower?

So...

C# F# B E A D G C F A# D# G# C#

The fingerboard would be a Novax fanned fret setup on a max. 37.5" scale (C#) with the "step down" after the C and continue on the shortened scale to end up around 23".

I was going to post a diagram but I don't have any gfx software. Just picture a bass neck with a guitar neck glued to it's lower edge for a rough idea.

It's still dodgy but perhaps a little less than impossible.
 
Originally posted by john turner


it weighs about 27 pounds.



yeah, you would think, although maybe not. it would at least weigh more. [/B]

Lets say he uses a hollowed out body chambers design and light woods, Id say about 40 pounds.

So, I bet all the local chiropractors are happy.

I too wanna see a pic of this 9 string.

Im sure Ive seen 9 string basses before, I see 8 strings all the time, I just love seeing these monsters and would like to see yours.

Peace
Nick
 
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