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fdecks HPF, Part II

#103
I just wanted to report that the Series 3 really helped me out last Saturday.

I always have it in my chain, set around 40Hz. At the gig, however, I arrived to find a nice, hollow stage, which created huge blooms of low-end when I played. I used my Alembic SF-2 to pin-point the offending frequency: ~88Hz.

I calculated that the half-way point on the HPF dial was ~87.5, so I set it a touch higher (probably between 88 and 90 Hz), and the bloom was tamed just enough to balance with the rest of my stage sound. We had a great gig.

Many thanks, fdeck - that's quite a gadget you've created!

Now, I just have to get one for my guitarist... :hmm:
 
#104
esa372 said:
I just wanted to report that the Series 3 really helped me out last Saturday.

I always have it in my chain, set around 40Hz. At the gig, however, I arrived to find a nice, hollow stage, which created huge blooms of low-end when I played. I used my Alembic SF-2 to pin-point the offending frequency: ~88Hz.

I calculated that the half-way point on the HPF dial was ~87.5, so I set it a touch higher (probably between 88 and 90 Hz), and the bloom was tamed just enough to balance with the rest of my stage sound. We had a great gig.

Many thanks, fdeck - that's quite a gadget you've created!

Now, I just have to get one for my guitarist... :hmm:
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How'd you get 87.5? Jw
 
#105
jeffgnr90 said:
How'd you get 87.5? Jw
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The full sweep of the frequency adjustment is from 35Hz to 140Hz, which makes the total range 105. Half of 105 is 52.5.

52.5 added to 35 (or subtracted from 140) is 87.5Hz - the center frequency between the two extremes.

Of course, this assumes that the range is incremented equally throughout the sweep, which may or may not be true... but it was close enough to solve the problem. :)
 
#106
esa372 said:
The full sweep of the frequency adjustment is from 35Hz to 140Hz, which makes the total range 105. Half of 105 is 52.5.

52.5 added to 35 (or subtracted from 140) is 87.5Hz - the center frequency between the two extremes.

Of course, this assumes that the range is incremented equally throughout the sweep, which may or may not be true... but it was close enough to solve the problem. :)
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Ahh OK. A good ending question though, is the range equally implemented throughout the sweep? Hmmmmmm muy interesante
 
#107
esa372 said:
I just wanted to report that the Series 3 really helped me out last Saturday.

I always have it in my chain, set around 40Hz. At the gig, however, I arrived to find a nice, hollow stage, which created huge blooms of low-end when I played. I used my Alembic SF-2 to pin-point the offending frequency: ~88Hz.

I calculated that the half-way point on the HPF dial was ~87.5, so I set it a touch higher (probably between 88 and 90 Hz), and the bloom was tamed just enough to balance with the rest of my stage sound. We had a great gig.

Many thanks, fdeck - that's quite a gadget you've created!

Now, I just have to get one for my guitarist... :hmm:
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How would a hpf benefit a guitarist?
 
#112
tminus10 said:
Just bought a Fdeck HPF to run through the side chain of my Empress Compressor. I'm wondering if I'll gain the benefits of the HPF through my entire signal chain or just my compressor?
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If I understand how the sidechain on that thing works, just the compressed sound. In fact it may even emphasise the frequencies the FDeck is set to affect as it'll be telling the compressor to ignore them. I think you'd be better off making up a HPF pancake jack like they show in the video and using the FDeck normally. Of course, I may be wrong, apologies for any misinformation.
 
#113
Wolffgang said:
If I understand how the sidechain on that thing works, just the compressed sound. In fact it may even emphasise the frequencies the FDeck is set to affect as it'll be telling the compressor to ignore them. I think you'd be better off making up a HPF pancake jack like they show in the video and using the FDeck normally. Of course, I may be wrong, apologies for any misinformation.
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Didnt know there was a video. Ill have to check it out.
Thanks
 
#114
Wolffgang said:
If I understand how the sidechain on that thing works, just the compressed sound. In fact it may even emphasise the frequencies the FDeck is set to affect as it'll be telling the compressor to ignore them. I think you'd be better off making up a HPF pancake jack like they show in the video and using the FDeck normally. Of course, I may be wrong, apologies for any misinformation.
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According to the manual, useing a HPF should stop the compressor from attacking my low frequencies. As far as making my own jack....not going to happen
 
#115
tminus10 said:
According to the manual, useing a HPF should stop the compressor from attacking my low frequencies. As far as making my own jack....not going to happen
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Yeah, my thinking is that by stopping the compressor from seeing the lows, you're almost doing the reverse of what it would normally be doing, or at least in no way highpassing your signal. Fair enough if you don't want to have a go at making the jack, but you couldn't ask for an easier project to cut your teeth on learning to solder.
 
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#116
Wolffgang said:
Yeah, my thinking is that by stopping the compressor from seeing the lows, you're almost doing the reverse of what it would normally be doing, or at least in no way highpassing your signal. Fair enough if you don't want to have a go at making the jack, but you couldn't ask for an easier project to cut your teeth on learning to solder.
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Well thats the point. The Compressor wont over react to the low frequencies and squash them, if that makes any sense,
 
#117
tminus10 said:
Well thats the point. The Compressor wont over react to the low frequencies and squash them, if that makes any sense,
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I get what the sidechain's for, I'm just saying that's not what this HPF is for, mostly, and that you'd be using a $100 piece of gear for what could be done with a couple of dollars worth of parts. Plus you'll need to use a stereo to split mono cable to connect the Fdeck to it. It just seems like an expensive, complicated way to do something simple.

If it floats your boat, then by all means do so.
 
#118
Wolffgang said:
I get what the sidechain's for, I'm just saying that's not what this HPF is for, mostly, and that you'd be using a $100 piece of gear for what could be done with a couple of dollars worth of parts. Plus you'll need to use a stereo to split mono cable to connect the Fdeck to it. It just seems like an expensive, complicated way to do something simple.

If it floats your boat, then by all means do so.
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now I understand what youre saying Thanks Wolffgang.
 
#120
Hey guys, I'm an electric only player, and I've got a series 1 that I love.it sounds great as the first stop on my board, i usually run it pretty close to 35hz give or take depending on the room, but it's always on.

Question is: am I missing out by not using a series 2 or 3 if solely for electric? I'd happily upgrade if the consensus is that the series 1 is not the ideal application for an electric rig. I know that the adage goes "why replace something you're happy with?" I'm just curious what difference I could expect moving from a 1 to a 3. Thanks
 
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