fdecks HPF, Part II

[jeffgnr90]

Yeah, I keep my fdeck series 1 maxed all the time too. Plus I keep it very last in my chain. Maybe I should try it first and see what happens. How the heck would you mount that on your board with it being first??

jw, what type of music do you play? you don't find the filter cutoff at 140hz to be too much? I've been running mine at 12 o'clock (which I assume is around 105hz, even that seems like a lot to roll off) and last in my chain but haven't had a chance to play with it in a live mix. i can tell that the fdeck does tighten up the low-end and makes things more articulate. I play in a new prog/post rock band so i don't always find a need for the deep deep stuff.

 

[Doug Parent]

alright guys, you convinced me to just go with the 3. I would be really bummed if I got the 1 and then later bought the 3 (which that is exactly the kind of thing that I do all the time)
I have a new driver on the way (to replace my blown one) and now the HPF. Hopefully I'll stop blowing them!

I think someone has one for sale in the classifieds.

 

[sinbad7]

ok so I got the HPF today and have 2 questions. 1) will any standard guitar pedal power supply work? The sheet that came with it said yes but it says the output needs to be 9v and 10mA but most power supplies I see (like this one) are 300mA. Is that ok?
And 2) would it be better to run this Bass-HPF-amp input or run it through my effects loop like this loop-HPF-sonic maximizer-loop.
Thanks guys!

 

[B-string]

1) 300ma power supply is fine, it could run 30 HPFs or just the one you have.
2) Try both ways to see which you like better, if you like dialing in some hair it may be better in the effects loop......or not.

 

[jeffgnr90]

ok so I got the HPF today and have 2 questions. 1) will any standard guitar pedal power supply work? The sheet that came with it said yes but it says the output needs to be 9v and 10mA but most power supplies I see (like this one) are 300mA. Is that ok?
And 2) would it be better to run this Bass-HPF-amp input or run it through my effects loop like this loop-HPF-sonic maximizer-loop.
Thanks guys!

i place mine after my fx and before the amp and it does wonders. haven't tried it in the fx loop of my amp at all but it's worth a shot. 9v should be good, since that's what i'm using with my 1spot.

 

[sinbad7]

awesome! thanks guys!

 

[Downunderwonder]

Your power supply is fine. It can power other pedals with the other 290mA it can spare.

Maybe you're old enough to remember incandescent light bulbs. They all work on same voltage. Too many on one circuit overloads the supply.

I would definitely put it after that sonic "maximiser", not before. ( Actually the maximiser would better go in the bin, but that's for you to decide )

 

[azwhofan]

anyone have any experience using an HPF3 with a Puma 900? The specs for the Puma state that the Low eq knob is centered at 30hz. I'm just wondering how the HPF3 and Puma will interact?

 

[Downunderwonder]

Boosting the low eq will eat into the cut that the hpf makes. One would hope the amp has its own very steep highpass below 30hz or that knob must be murder on most cabs.

 

[mikeGJ]

Bought a "2" to use with K&K Bass Max on URB.

Have only used to test so far, but looks like the right tool for for me for the moment.

 

[Jim C]

Consider this application:
Low output 1972 Jazz all original
Would like a HPF as just a general tool with Ampegs although it would be a dream with my SWR
I'm assuming the series II attenuates volume with it's volume control and is not a boost.
I'm trying to save cash and wonder if the series I will be just fine, or do you electric players like having the fixed cut at 35Hz. and then the ability to drop 12 dB/octave above that point?

i.e. Does the III bring that much to the table for the rock / RB player who isn't walking in with big low end problems?
(I know, it's a lousy $50 bucks)

 

[mbelue]

Consider this application:
Low output 1972 Jazz all original
Would like a HPF as just a general tool with Ampegs although it would be a dream with my SWR
I'm assuming the series II attenuates volume with it's volume control and is not a boost.
I'm trying to save cash and wonder if the series I will be just fine, or do you electric players like having the fixed cut at 35Hz. and then the ability to drop 12 dB/octave above that point?

i.e. Does the III bring that much to the table for the rock / RB player who isn't walking in with big low end problems?
(I know, it's a lousy $50 bucks)

Series 1 and 2 both have a small amount of boost. Neither can use a power supply. Series 3 is the only unity gain device. The series 1 and 2 will be less than ideal in most effects loops. Series 3 has much more head room.

 

[Stevorebob]

Consider this application:
Low output 1972 Jazz all original
Would like a HPF as just a general tool with Ampegs although it would be a dream with my SWR
I'm assuming the series II attenuates volume with it's volume control and is not a boost.
I'm trying to save cash and wonder if the series I will be just fine, or do you electric players like having the fixed cut at 35Hz. and then the ability to drop 12 dB/octave above that point?

i.e. Does the III bring that much to the table for the rock / RB player who isn't walking in with big low end problems?
(I know, it's a lousy $50 bucks)

Short answer: Yes, the III is worth the additional $50. More headroom and its adjustability takes the boom out of "bad rooms." Just turn the filter knob counter-clockwise until the bass tightens to your preference. And the convenience of a power supply rather than battery power is a huge plus.

 

[foderaman]

As per my opinion of the Fdeck series 3 it is like having a tunable cabinet when you use it rather than having a effect on the amp.Most of the time it is the room acoustics that give you the boom but sometime the tuning Freq of the cab has a resonate freq that causes it and the Fdeck seems to tweek the resonance to me.

 

[astack]

I use my Series 3 all the time for EB and URB.

Curious if the schematic for the Series 3 ever got published. The site only has Series 2. I'm curious to check it out and possibly build it into some other pedals.

 

[Jim C]

Can I assume that 24dB of filtering at 35 Hz. is never going to be a problem (too much gain reduction) as there is very little audible bass in this frequency range?

 

[BurningSkies]

You are correct, Jim. Besides, most cabs roll off well above there, so you're just wasting excursion headroom for stuff you can't really hear but messes up the sound in the room.

 

[Chef]

Can I assume that 24dB of filtering at 35 Hz. is never going to be a problem (too much gain reduction) as there is very little audible bass in this frequency range?

Often, when I adjust the freq select, starting at 35hz, I hear no diff until ~60-80hz range or so.

 

[dukeorock]

Often, when I adjust the freq select, starting at 35hz, I hear no diff until ~60-80hz range or so.

Especially on upright gigs I try to remember to sweep mine a bit to fit the room, before any eq'ing...really helpful at times

 

[Jim C]

Thanks fellas; very helpful info.
I just wanted to be able to continue to shake walls with my Bergie 322 with virtually no 35Hz, and below.
In reality my house allows for a lot more extreme low end than any small club I've played; of course I'm not fighting to be heard in a mix either.