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fEARful part 13: the bad luck's done, son

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I've run mic'd kick drum and also a full elctronic drum set through a 12/6. Both worked fine for my purposes, although the lack of tweeter made the cymbals sound dull.
I've also used the bottom cab of my 2 x 12/6 stack as a PA sub.
 
I dispense with the T nuts as well, just tap the holes in the baffle with a 1/4"-20 tap. The grills are light.

The mounting hardware usually shows up as a suggested buy when you look at your cart at checkout on the Parts Express site. I know what you are saying about the PE site, it's stimuli overload trying to find stuff.

Thank you all who responded and helped with this. I'll check them out tonight. OTH I saw that Greenboy recommended a different vendor on the fEarful web site, and their site was so much easier to navigate, although their parts are more expensive, plus greenboy's comment about the grills being a heavier gauge. Just another detail to ponder, but thank you all for your help.
 
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I've already read about how variable L pad resistors can be a weak link in the chain.

But my question is: As you turn the variable L pad resistor up and down how does it affect the x-over frequency?

If you turn it up does the x-over point get higher, or the opposite?

Since the answer so far by rspands has been it depends, I'll give some more details.

KLLF15", 6" Eighteen Sound mid, LDS cab with a RPatterson x-over.

Maybe someone can shed some light.
 
Just curious, has anyone thought of, or tried using a fEARful as a kick drum amp?

For situations where the PA only has vocals coming through it.

I sometimes put a Beyer M88 in the kick drum and run it through the second channel of my old SVT.

The trick is to use a high impedance mic cable (XLR for the Beyer, 1/4" for the SVT). The cable allows you to dial the mic in so it's never too loud. A sound-guy friend of mine turned me onto the idea and made the cable for me.
 
But my question is: As you turn the variable L pad resistor up and down how does it affect the x-over frequency?

If it were an active crossover it would change the acoustic point upward when you turn the mid driver side down, and change it downward when you turn the mid driver. It would change the overlap and the distribution of output - but at least it wouldn't be interacting with the drivers' impedance plots / reactance.

With a passive variable attenuating part though it gets more complex because you've basically rewritten the entire LCR relationships, because passive crossovers of better designs factor in driver reactance. The impedance plots of each driver are being addressed in a different area than they were formerly - not to mention that the typical 100-watt variable l-pad varies across its sweep about 140-150% from the values it should be presenting.
 
CDweller: Did you ever go ahead with that cab from Art of Noise?

Sorry, just saw this. Nope. Robby is a stand up guy, and diligently working towards crafting lighter cabs. My thing was that I didn't want to be a part of any sort of product development process, which one is when you go with something totally new. So wood for me. Got a 15/6/1//12/6/1 stack ala Tom Bowlus from Leland. Switched out the ASD1001's for BSM4540 hf drivers, and life is good.

I also believe that if something is worth doing, it's worth doing excessively, so I commissioned Ron Anchak for a 1212/6/1 and a 15 Sub. That was about two months ago, so I expect them to be ready sometime soon.
 
Here's a writeup on my Anchak fEARful 15/6/1 stack.

Last weekend I went and picked up the second 15/6/1 cab that I had Ron Anchak build for me. I had previously brought the other 15/6/1 cab back to his shop so he could test some things out with the pair before I showed up, so we had both cabs to play with at Ron's shop when I stopped by. I brought over both my TC Electronics RH750 and Ampeg SVT-7 Pro to test the rig.

Both the RH750 and the Ampeg sound great through a 15/6/1. They sound different but they are both great. SPL wise, with one cab the RH750 and the Ampeg put out the same SPL.

With both cabs, both amps sounded great. When I had both cabs stacked, playing in front of that was like getting a full body bass massage. Heaven. Best cabs I've ever owned. With the cabs stacked, this is where the difference between the RH750 and the SVT-7 Pro can be seen, headroom wise. At levels of db 123+ the SVT-7 exhibited more headroom than the RH750. The SVT-7 Pro can stay cleaner, louder than the RH750. Even with TubeTone all the way down, with both 15/6/1 cabs and pushing past 120-123db, the RH750 starts to break up. A pleasant breakup, but a breakup nonetheless where the SVT-7 Pro can stay clean at 123 db plus. So if you need loud and clean, use the SVT-7.

In the case of both amps, the fEARful cabs could take more than the amps could give. That being said, with either amp, 1 cab is probably all I will ever need in situations I play. If I did have the need for both fEARfuls, I would default to the SVT-7 because it has more headroom with both cabs.

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With all that I concentrated on the SVT-7 Pro and 2 cabs and played around at high SPL levels. It was Saturday morning and the businesses around Ron's shop were empty so we can crank as much as we liked. The whole time I kept quoting famous thesbian Samuel Jackson over and over. The quote rhymed with "Brother Tucker." I kept playing and kept quoting over and over. The SVT-7 Pro with 2 15/6/1 cabs has a set of brass-basket-balls. Fantastic tone and volume for miles. You can take this rig to a Rock / Doom / Metal / X-Core gig and have plenty and then some. The bass is full without boom and the mids are articulate. I roll the highs back normally, but to test I put more treble than I normally use and tested that out. If you like treble, its there. I walk around and the rig sounds as good off axis as it does on.

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For giggles we took it up to some serious volume and then hit the ultra-low button on the SVT-7. The fEARfuls took it without problem. I have to say, Greenboy designs and Ron Anchak builds a mighty fine cab. Great Lows, Mids, and Highs with off axis definition that sounds fantastic. This will be the last set up big rig cabs I will ever need. I will probably put this on the rig of doom and the big cab threads on Talkbass. This rig definitely qualifies. You can definitely feed the 2 15/6/1 fEARfuls more than the 1000w at 4 ohms that SVT-7 Pro puts out, but I think most people would be happy with what they get with this combination.
 
Thanks for the nice review and bass porn, Scogman.

It was Saturday morning and the businesses around Ron's shop were empty so we can crank as much as we liked.

I was wonderin'...


I will probably put this on the rig of doom and the big cab threads on Talkbass. This rig definitely qualifies.

I'll be surprised if you get a number from the big cab guys. 410s, 115s, and modular rigs don't cut it there... gotta be stoopid heavy.
 
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