fEARFUL the solution to everything

[Warwick Qc418]

Is there anyone like me who is tired of hearing about the fEARUL as the solution to every problem?

If the 410 and other conventional speaker design are poor design, I see it as an engineering masterpiece to overcome those problems and still make cabs that sound really good.

Maybe, like many scientific discovery, it is by experiment and mistake that great design are made and maybe it is those flaws that makes a character to a sound and a brand.

There is also a fact that the fEARFUL are not easy to find and try, there are other cabs out there that sound great.

 

[xxx666]

Not as tired as I am of troll posts!

 

[guy n. cognito]

Uh Oh......

Expect a lot of angry responses to this. I'll just say this: if you like the tone of your current rig, and you aren't having any problems being heard, then you have no need for a fEarful. If you've always desired uncolored, PA like tone, then it might be something to consider.

 

[Warwick Qc418]

That's another thing, being angry about this is nonsense

 

[the Arsonaut]

Well, Mr Warwick Qc418 (if that's even your real name...),


Since fEARFUL is THE cabinet for Metal...I think the only remaining question is,
what brand of flatwounds you are playing on your "__poll result bass shootout choice here__" through it...

 

[Nightlyraider]

something about listen with your ears and everybody has their own tastes..

 

[JxBass]

For anyone who doesn't like fEARful cabs there are always fEARless cabs

 

[mbelue]

I have a fearful. It hasn't made me a better bassist, if anything it makes me look worse than my old 210 ever did.
Not a good solution there.
Its a 12/6 so its loud but not loud enough to not need a PA.
Not a good solution there.
Its a tool like all the others. I don't want a cabinet to shape my tone. That isn't a tool I need. I want a cabinet that approximates what my audience hears from a PA. Is it the same, of course not unless its a fearful PA.
What I'm getting at is some people want a hammer and some people want a screwdriver. Hammer people are generally very happy with the job the hammer does, likewise the screwdriver people with their tool. Sometimes hammer people are not happy with their tool so screwdriver people offer one of theirs. Sometimes it fits sometimes it doesn't. It isn't the tools fault people can't get along. Its far more relative to the social hangups we all inherently carry with us. So get another 410 if you like, it won't hurt fearful people one iota, we will just stand off axis.

 

[Primakurtz]

fEarful cabinets cure herpes, baldness, and erectile dysfunction. How can you hate that?

 

[4Mal]

When I stack the 12.6 on the 12.sub, mine actually causes ED... In drummers... I was never able to acheive that with my old 4x10 rig...

If the 410 and other conventional speaker design are poor design, I see it as an engineering masterpiece to overcome those problems and still make cabs that sound really good.

ah, there is the rub... Sounds good.... To who you ? Me ? The audience ? The only place i see a typical 'Square' 4x10 config really working is as a stage monitor on high volume stages with massive FOH support. You know like an areana. Lot's of volume and punch close up. Not a lot of sub 60 hz going on. That can play well as a monitor. The real issues with the design develop out in front of the cab where hopefully the FOH has taken over.

Sad that you can't demo the koolaide, ah cabinet but that doesn't invalidate the design. You'll just have to take it on faith or not as you see fit. It really was easy for me to buy in as there was a 12.6 local to me that I could demo. After that demo I built a pair of 12.6 cabs and a pair of 12.sub cabs. As what I heard in the demo was convincing as all get out...

As an aside, not all my gig's work with the fEarful. I prefer my 1x10 combo and 1x10 extension cabs for acoustic support work by a mile. The extra low end doesn't play well under the other instruments as a low volume monitor. For straight ahead rock 'n roll, I like my 2x15. The fEarful gets the call for everthing else though. All those cabs are customs. A route I would never have really considerd if it weren't for Greenboy. I dabbled but always kept something 'commercial' as my 'serious' gig cab. Not anymore. There is nothing COTS that can get close to a well designed and built custom. Except on price... The whole custom cabinets thing has been a great learning experince for me and i have Greenboy to thank for the joirney to a major extent. Well him and Passinwind and to an extent, DukeLeJeune and Leland...

 

[GregC]

That's another thing, being angry about this is nonsense

And yet you started an angry-sounding thread about it.

 

[::::BASSIST::::]

I have played thru alot of cabs and most of them were really nice. All different flavours of good. fEARfuls work great for me as I can build them myself and I can build them light, among other things.

But I agree that the arguing is ridiculous. Play what works for you. fEARfuls may not be your thing and that's cool. As alluded to earlier, a bass cab is just a tool to get your music heard. Playing music for the sheer pleasure of it and making your listeners happy is what its all about. The gear is just a tool to express ourselves. Sometimes we lose sight of that.

 

[Warwick Qc418]

And yet you started an angry-sounding thread about it.

Not angry at all, just trying to open mind a little and so far I agree with most of the reply.

 

[BassmanPaul]

fEarful cabinets cure ......... erectile dysfunction. How can you hate that?

It does???? I know, you're just trying to get a rise out of me!!

 

[willsellout]

My only gripe with them is that I have to build one to hear one

 

[cableguy]

I have played thru alot of cabs and most of them were really nice. All different flavours of good. fEARfuls work great for me as I can build them myself and I can build them light, among other things.

But I agree that the arguing is ridiculous. Play what works for you. fEARfuls may not be your thing and that's cool. As alluded to earlier, a bass cab is just a tool to get your music heard. Playing music for the sheer pleasure of it and making your listeners happy is what its all about. The gear is just a tool to express ourselves. Sometimes we lose sight of that.

Well said sir......

Part of the reason I built my 12/6 was I could do little bits at a time, by myself at my own pace. This way it took the bite out of the price tag. Kind of like a payment plan to myself without interest. I figured worst case senario is I would be able to sell it for what I had into it...........well now I know, that ain't ever gonna happen.

 

[Tractorr]

Not angry at all, just trying to open mind a little and so far I agree with most of the reply.

Fair enough, but I think one of the reasons people are so effusive about these cabs (besides the sound) is the fact that they do something that traditionally these sorts of configurations don't. 4X10, 8X10, and 2X15 are probably the most traditional speaker configuration not because they were the best but you just need a lot of surface area. As speaker design improved people didn't need these cabs, but like most things tradition causes people to believe things that aren't true. For a lot of guys they were probably shocked when a 15 with a mid was able to not only replace a heavier 4X10 but also sound better (than most) and get louder (than most).

 

[Dan Knowlton]

When I stack the 12.6 on the 12.sub, mine actually causes ED... In drummers... I was never able to acheive that with my old 4x10 rig...

I'm gonna buy two of those rigs! I'm tired of the drummer embarrassing us in public!

Dan K.

 

[Pilgrim]

I have the skills but no inclination to build my own cabs. I'm very happy with the Genz-Benz Shuttle cabs and they do everything I need.

People going on about Fearful is as tiresome as their going on about iPhones. (I just bought a new Samsung Galaxy S3 and I'm not interested in Apple's evil empire.)

 

[MarthaSamira]

If you've always desired uncolored, PA like tone, then it might be something to consider.

Do you really shoot for a "PA like" tone?

My basses always sounded a whole lot better in bass cabs than in PA cabs.

What's the appeal of uncolored tone? Tone has to be good, that's it... Overly transparent bass cabs sound cold, uninspired and boring. Best cabs around have a characteristic voice.