Fender Decals On Non-Fender Basses

[SchizoBassist]

The Fender logo belongs to Fender but if I were to sand it off, I wouldn't be defaming their instrument in the same way that sticking a decal on another headstock would only be giving them free publicity. The line is only crossed when you try to resell that bass as a Fender.

Fenders are standard instruments. If you find a music shop in Moscow, you'll probably find a Fender in the same way that if you go to McDonald's in Paris you'll probably find a Quarter Pounder with cheese.

 

[Gort]

Do each of you pay ASCAP when you play a cover song that you didn't write?

The venues around here pay a fee that covers it.

 

[THand]

When I started out about 40 years ago, but I gave it up early deciding to play things the way I felt they should be played and not deliberately copy anyone else.

I'm surprised we haven't heard of you, being a bassist that only plays original notes. Do you miss being able to play a 1 or a 5? How about a flatted 3rd? Give me a break.

 

[Gort]

if you go to McDonald's in Paris you'll probably find a Quarter Pounder with cheese.

But they call it a Royale with cheese.

 

[sleepy_monkey]

The venues around here pay a fee that covers it.

I have played in tons of venues/bars/etc all over the Southeast and I will say that maybe 5% are registered with ASCAP....which is par for the course everywhere according to most musicians.

 

[sleepy_monkey]

But they call it a Royale with cheese.

Le Big MAC! haha Love that movie.

 

[Gort]

I'm surprised we haven't heard of you, being a bassist that only plays original notes. Do you miss being able to play a 1 or a 5? How about a flatted 3rd? Give me a break.

It's called a personal style and IME, it can't be had by copying other's licks. It's not what you play so much as what you don't play and how you don't play it.

 

[THand]

It's not what you play so much as what you don't play and how you don't play it.

You stole that saying.

 

[Gort]

I have played in tons of venues/bars/etc all over the Southeast and I will say that maybe 5% are registered with ASCAP....which is par for the course everywhere according to most musicians.

The places we play here pay it. It's a resort area so maybe it's checked more closely.

 

[Gort]

You stole that saying.

Just for you, so you could say that, you missed the other quote I appropriated.

 

[THand]

Just for you, so you could say that, you missed the other quote I appropriated.

Such thievery! How do you live with yourself?

 

[SchizoBassist]

Such thievery! How do you live with yourself?

He doesn't, he lives with the other inmates

 

[smcd]

Hey, you think the legal department had a say in the design of the Squire Website, the one with the word FENDER plastered all over it?

What are those two words under "Squire" in the Logo? Looks like the legal dept. already had a say and the result was "Fender" on the logo.

You guys crying about it are just bickering over the size of something that is perfectly legitimate, at least according to the example set by Fender and it's legal dept....

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Putting Fender logo's on Fender products is perfectly legitimate and acceptable.

-eSmith.

What Fender does with the Squier brand is their business. But the very fact that Fender doesn't market replacement necks or decals pretty much defines their attitude towards their trademark.


But hey, don't let that stop you from spouting off those interesting Fender Facts. It's very enlightening.

 

[Burlington]

What Fender does with the Squier brand is their business.

And what I put on my headstock is mine.

 

[SchizoBassist]

Anyone here ever use a non-Fender pickguard?

I thought not.

 

[smcd]

Yes, Squire is a product made BY Fender. As in, it is 100% a Fender Product. Putting a Fender Logo on it therefore is perfectly legitimate.

Sorry, that is the only logic that works, anything else is an exception to stroke the ego of someone who demands those few extra dollars allow them to split hairs on the logo placement on products made by the exact same brand.

-eSmith.

You don't understand what you're talking about.


FMIC has made the decision to market the Squier brand separate from the Fender brand. The Squier brand is a budget line, the Fender brand a premium line. It's very cheesy to put a Fender logo on a Squier guitar. Mainly because those turning Squiers into "Fenders" are doing so to pass themselves off as something more impressive than they are.

As people like to use the automobile metaphor, this is exactly like Volkswagen and Porsche. They're the same company, making similar products, but different brands. One is pedestrian, one premium. No one is going to put a VW logo on a Porsche, but were it possible, many would consider putting a Porsche logo on a VW. This because it would, in theory, allow someone of limited means to pass himself off as more affluent than he really is.

It's in the human nature to do things like this. Not everyone does it (thank God), but given an opportunity, many will. As is being demonstrated in this thread.

 

[smcd]

And what I put on my headstock is mine.

Right. No matter how it makes you look.

 

[johnk_10]

i'm not sure if that's the best example since when they were producing their entry level Porsche, the ALL of the Porsche 914's in germany had a VW emblem on them. in the states, they all had a Porsche badge on them.

 

[alembicguy]

And what I put on my headstock is mine.

This is the only intelligent thing said so far! Thank you. What's mine is mine.

 

[Burlington]

Right. No matter how it makes you look.

Well, to everyone else, it looks like I'm playing a Fender, and unless I let it be known, then only I know the truth. And honestly, I could care less what a person like you would think about me.

It sounds to me like you have a personal problem with this. Do you have many vintage Fenders or something?