Anybody who is actually that concerned about it is probably going to know if you put a Fender decal on a Squier -- then you are really going to look like a tool!
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Fender decals on not-really-Fender basses
- Thread starter Habilis
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Anybody who is actually that concerned about it is probably going to know if you put a Fender decal on a Squier -- then you are really going to look like a tool!
FloridaThump said:
Labor costs are only one part of the equation. I am a skilled laborer in the manufacturing of wholesale custom goods. I don't know any American who works in a fabrication shop who I would describe as "underworked" or "overpaid." Most people I know who make things for a living are working hard and earning every penny.
PrietoBass said:Your response makes it look like it was immigrant who said the above, but I think you quoted him and then included your response in his quote.
I may be mistaken; please correct me if I'm wrong.
Your response touched some of my nerves, but because this is a thread about decals I'll just be cool.
However, I'm curious to know what sources you have to back your claim that American workers have a lower level of pride in the work they produce than their Asian counterparts. I want to see some facts attached to that bold statement... because unless I unknowingly live in some foreign country, most people that I work with have a high sense of pride in the work they do... And I know people who went to grad school who are perfectly happy with dropping out of the rat race to take a "lesser" job for the sake of peace and sanity.
I'm going to be cool and just leave it here.
I am dying to know what FloridaThump does for a living and if he even knows any craftsmen or has ever seen the inside of a shop.
I have a brother who is one of the worlds biggest snobs. I got a Highway 1 Strat and he said it was a POS. So, I got an Indonesian Strat, installed the loaded pg from the HW1 (put texas specials in it), MIM bridge, Mighty Mite neck and tuners and a fake MIA waterslide. My brother went absolutely nuts over it because he thought it was a MIA Deluxe. The look on his face when I told him it was a fake was priceless. I outed him as a label snob. I only play this guitar in my basement and will not sell it with that waterslide on it. I got what I wanted out of it.
There are 3 main reasons to put a Fender decal on a Squier:
1) To fool someone watching you play it into thinking it's a Fender.
2) To fool someone who is buying it into thinking it's a Fender.
3) To feel better about your instrument simply because you've put a different brand name on it.
I don't know which of those is the saddest.
1) To fool someone watching you play it into thinking it's a Fender.
2) To fool someone who is buying it into thinking it's a Fender.
3) To feel better about your instrument simply because you've put a different brand name on it.
I don't know which of those is the saddest.
How bout reason #5) Because you wanna stick it to the man! Seems to work pretty well in the guitar world to rile people up.
I was against the practice and would never consider doing it until I read this thread. Now I'm considering putting one of those fancy butterfly inlays on one of those cheap cheesy import basses with the quilted ply tops.
I was against the practice and would never consider doing it until I read this thread. Now I'm considering putting one of those fancy butterfly inlays on one of those cheap cheesy import basses with the quilted ply tops.
Good luck finding a job when you finally cross the minimum age to work because of child labor laws that you benefit from whether you understand them or not.
I'm modding a VM Squier all to hell and I'm slapping a Fender decal on the headstock. I can afford a "real" Fender (or whatever for that matter), but I kind of like screwing with/laughing at gear snobs. I'll leave the "Made in Indonesia" and original serial number on the back so as to clearly identify what it is though, in case it's ever sold.
I kind of wonder if some of you feel like your thunder has been stolen by the guys with fake Fenders, while you have the genuine article. If having the real thing means anything to you, just knowing that your instrument is legit should be enough. If it isn't, ask yourself why you care. Are you so in love with the idea that you're a guy who owns a real Fender, as opposed to a guy who merely owns an imposter with a Fender decal, that you allow yourself to get upset or even mildly annoyed at a guy like me with no moral qualms about this stuff?
I find it kind of humorous when guys who are perfectly cool with adopting stage names, wearing stage clothes, breaking out patended stage moves and promoting a stage persona get ruffled by a fake decal on some other guy's headstock. *Everything* that we do and are while on stage, besides the actual playing of the music, is part of an elaborate illusion. But it's the illusion that makes it a show.
I kind of wonder if some of you feel like your thunder has been stolen by the guys with fake Fenders, while you have the genuine article. If having the real thing means anything to you, just knowing that your instrument is legit should be enough. If it isn't, ask yourself why you care. Are you so in love with the idea that you're a guy who owns a real Fender, as opposed to a guy who merely owns an imposter with a Fender decal, that you allow yourself to get upset or even mildly annoyed at a guy like me with no moral qualms about this stuff?
I find it kind of humorous when guys who are perfectly cool with adopting stage names, wearing stage clothes, breaking out patended stage moves and promoting a stage persona get ruffled by a fake decal on some other guy's headstock. *Everything* that we do and are while on stage, besides the actual playing of the music, is part of an elaborate illusion. But it's the illusion that makes it a show.
No kidding.
I thought this thread disappeared via mod slamming it shut.
It's not a gear snob thing. It's a stuffing a sock down your pants thing. That's fine as long as you stay at home with your faux package, but as soon as someone wants to see it...
Inevidibly someone will unknowingly buy one as a real Fender. A few get stopped when they post an "is this real?" thread, but for the masses outside of TB, they get taken. Once is too many.
Enjoy the faux package all you want.
I thought this thread disappeared via mod slamming it shut.
It's not a gear snob thing. It's a stuffing a sock down your pants thing. That's fine as long as you stay at home with your faux package, but as soon as someone wants to see it...
Inevidibly someone will unknowingly buy one as a real Fender. A few get stopped when they post an "is this real?" thread, but for the masses outside of TB, they get taken. Once is too many.
Enjoy the faux package all you want.
FWIW, I'd be comfortable with a Squier marked as such, or a Jay Turser, or whatever. It would actually be embarrassing to have a Squier labeled Fender.
