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Fender Japan is gone :(

Part of me hates this with every inch of my body, but simultaneously, I've been recently VERY impressed by MIMs and especially Indeonesian Squiers. Ultimately, modern mainstream production involves so much automation, digital machining, ultimately the human factor is only fully involved in the painting/oiling process, fretting and perhaps electronics installation. I totally feel for all the Japanese workers, just like the Undercover Boss episode with Peavey; it's an evil move by the corporate honchos. From a consumer perspective though, idk if it really hits me that hard, though I do love myself some MIJs. A lot.
I picked up a lefty MIM J off GC's used page for fairly cheap ($399, not sure whether that's really a deal or not?). Quite impressed with the quality and condition of it, much better than I really expected, virtually new, other than a small ding and scrape on the bottom side edge. Put together quite well. Now restrung righty, of course! ;) Have yet to drill the hole for the new strap button, almost seems a shame to, given the near perfect condition it's in. Better than I expected, honestly.
 
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I totally feel for all the Japanese workers, just like the Undercover Boss episode with Peavey; it's an evil move by the corporate honchos.

My reading is that the Japanese company licensed the Fender name and designs and then farmed the work out to Fujigen and others. If the workers work on basses under different names (as even Fujigen, Matsumoko and others have done over the years) then there might not be much impact on the workers, just a slight difference in style. If the Japanese company was feeling the pinch that is not good, and maybe stopping licensing the Fender brand is cost saving on their part, and that would be more worrying for those employed.

Alternatively they might just feel that licensing the brand isn't offering them enough value compared to making their own products if that is largely serving a domestic market. Yamaha has made a number of classic designs over the year and done well with their own brand, as has Tokai, and other Japanese brands (Korg, Roland, Zoom) do well in their own right in other parts of the music business.
 
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very true, and not relevant to my point as we live in today, and China today is a hit and miss (mostly miss) bag of hand production and business/labor ethics problems.. There are a few examples of nicely made stuff in China, and almost always it's because there is pride in the product by a workforce that is not poorly treated or paid. Japan on the otherhand has historically and culturally been obsessive about workmanship, and what problems there were in the post war era were largely the doing of American businessmen trying to exploit cheap labor.

WOW.

With all due respect, you've just crossed the line from being conveniently shortsighted to being subtly racist...

largely the doing of American businessmen trying to exploit cheap labor.

What exactly do you think is going on in China right now?
 
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Part of me hates this with every inch of my body, but simultaneously, I've been recently VERY impressed by MIMs and especially Indeonesian Squiers. Ultimately, modern mainstream production involves so much automation, digital machining, ultimately the human factor is only fully involved in the painting/oiling process, fretting and perhaps electronics installation. I totally feel for all the Japanese workers, just like the Undercover Boss episode with Peavey; it's an evil move by the corporate honchos. From a consumer perspective though, idk if it really hits me that hard, though I do love myself some MIJs. A lot.

I agree. However, what I, personally, will miss are the cool and/or beautiful designs and options that FMIC (stateside) can't or won't make. Just by doing a side-by-side comparison the Fender Japan offerings and the current runs by the stateside, you'll see a tremendous difference in mind-set. Certainly, all are recognizably "FENDER", but the esthetic grooves run off into different territories.

who cares..i for one never bought a bass that was not made in the good ole u.s.a. its bad enough that they own the auto industry ,electronics,etc...but our beloved musical instruments too?!?!?... BUY AMERICAN,SAVE OUR FUTURE...PLEASE!!!

I wish I could chalk my response up to "SARCASM". Unfortunately, it falls under "VERIFIABLE FACT". So, here goes…

"Yeah, man! Don't buy that Japanese car (that was built and assembled by American hands here in The States)! Instead, buy that American car (that was built by Mexican hands after the U.S. assembly plants were shut down to increase the profits by the top company officers)!!

:facepalm:

EDIT/ADDENDUM:
Make that, "…that was built by Mexican hands after the U.S. assembly plants were shut down to increase the profits by the top company officers…with massive pay raises and bonuses for them…gleefully glad-handing themselves while putting thousands of American blue collar employees out of work". That's a bit more accurate, no?

Point being, a rat is still a rat, no matter how many Red, White & Blue Brooks Brothers suits they wrap themselves up in.

/rant
 
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I have had several USA Fenders in the past, all from the 70s (when I was young and could splurge on basses) but--strictly my opinion--my '14 MIM Jazz fretless is the best one I've owned yet. 8.5 lbs. and nary a flaw anywhere. As for the China thing, I teach Global Economics for a living, but won't get started here...
 
if you are not from here your opinion does not count since you have no clue...yes...the last 2 posts...i quess i should not talk from my heart but come on man that was rude...!!

There's nothing wrong with speaking from the heart. I, for one, hold sincerity in the highest esteem. But there's a difference between "speaking from the heart" and "knee-jerk dogma".

But, back to the thread as it was initially intended…
Why would anyone outside of the bean counters want to stop basses like this being made?

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Are you kidding?! Gimme more! MORE, I SAY!! :thumbsup:
 
So glad I picked up a used P/J Aerodyne from a TB'r here recently. It's blue with matching head stock, cream binding, such a nice bass. Its too bad Fender continues to make these poor decisions...:thumbsdown:

It's not impossible that with (what might be) FMIC buying back the name in Japan that it might have bought the rights to manufacture the designs such as the Aerodyne elsewhere in the world.