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Fender Player series precision bass has neck dive

#21
pagourix7563 said:
Very interesting!!! I got an email from Fender, answering my question about neck dive. This is a part of it:
A bit of neck dive is common on any P-bass, across all series. As you have noted, these guitars are more happy when used with a strap.
The Jazz basses are bit more 'balanced' due to lower weight on neck and offset body shape, this can potentially facilitate a more comfortable experience when played sitting down without a strap.
Mustang basses tend to be significantly lighter and with a shorter 30" scale, this makes the whole balance aspect less noticeable overall.
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I played a P sitting down 5 days a week for 5 years. Yea it was a 70s P, not the lightest, but not uber heavy either.

No issues. I was a teenager also, no problems. Or standing when needed, no issues.

So just saying... I think neck dive is a relative term.
 
#22
Plain Old Barry said:
This IS the internet...

Neck dive is yet another thing I never even thought of over decades of bass playing, yet is apparently a big deal online.
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The problem with the Internet is that you can get it to say anything you want it to. Bias confirmation and all that.

I wonder if neck dive is the reason I prefer heavier bodies (within reason). Never really thought about it before this.
 
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#23
Going to a lightweight tuner is the best bet to solve the issue. More expensive, but better than all the Jimmy rigged nonsense alternatives.

In 99% of cases, it’s best to simply send back any neck dive instruments from the get go. It’s a very tall order to overcome a poor design, which is ultimately what it boils down to.

Neck dive is intolerable.
 
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#24
Every P, J, Strat and Tele I have neck dives on the knee. But they’re fine on a strap. My P with solid rosewood neck is the worst on the knee. Suede strap fixes it right up. They’re all fine on a strap. So I play a strap when I’m sitting if I need to.
 
#25
pagourix7563 said:
As I said, my Squier didn't have neck dive. If P basses generally don't have neck dive, I will return it. I know all the solutions for neck dive, but I sold the last bass to get rid of it! I didn't expect it from Fender. Something strange is that Player Series basses are all sold out and will be available again in July, but the store that I bought mine had a last one (the one I bought!).
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What does it weigh? Mine is 8.6 lbs and balances nicely.
 
#26
I haven't noticed any considerable neck dive on my player p. Honestly it seems to balance pretty nicely whether I'm sitting or standing. I don't even use a super fancy strap either, it's just regular canvas. I sat down with a jaguar one time though and that puppy dove quite a bit.
 
#28
My P player has a bit of neck dive. Not too much. Just horizontal. Must say it's a fantastic bass to play so it didn't bother me too much
I solved the broblem by buying a Precision American Professional II.
 
#29
My fender AO precision has neck dive so even if you spend more than double you don’t avoid the issue.
IMO is not tolerable in this price range, my Yamahas don’t have any neck dive so I believe you can find instruments w/o the “issue”
It really depend how bad is, if is a little bit and doesn’t cause fatigue or pain stick with the Player, otherwise try something else.
 
#31
Thanks for all the replies. I'm thinking of sending it back. The bad thing is that this is their last bass. Basses from the Fender Player Series will be available in mid-July... I hope by then that a bass will come to Greece, so I will have a hands-on experience with it, before buying.
 

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