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Fender Road Worn Pondering......

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That entire "Relic" concept, no matter which manufacturer is doing it, is just really, really dumb.

From the perspective of an old fart that bought a 50's P when he was 12 or 13 around about '63 or so,(yes Leo introduced the P bass the year I was born), it seems silly to me. I stripped mine and tried to spray can paint it a metallic purple or lavender cause I was enamored of the Ventures Mosrite axes. (must sound like a foreign language to most you youngins). Anyway the Ventures were the "Hellecasters" of that era. If you don't know who the Hellecasters are stop reading this post. Anyway mojo don't happen by trashin a new instrument at the factory level. Buyin one of those does not interest me in the least but YMMV. Hey anybody seen my purple metallic P in their travels? I forget who I sold it to, and I never did LSD! Sorry for the rant.
 
From the perspective of an old fart that bought a 50's P when he was 12 or 13 around about '63 or so,(yes Leo introduced the P bass the year I was born), it seems silly to me. I stripped mine and tried to spray can paint it a metallic purple or lavender cause I was enamored of the Ventures Mosrite axes. (must sound like a foreign language to most you youngins). Anyway the Ventures were the "Hellecasters" of that era. If you don't know who the Hellecasters are stop reading this post. Anyway mojo don't happen by trashin a new instrument at the factory level. Buyin one of those does not interest me in the least but YMMV. Hey anybody seen my purple metallic P in their travels? I forget who I sold it to, and I never did LSD! Sorry for the rant.
I know what you are saying.
But they just don't make 'em like they use to, literally.
After I read your message here I thought to myself.
Why don't they just make affordable instruments with the nitrocell paint anymore?
 
Nothing wrong with a little bit of discussion on the basses, what gets old are the arguments - people coming in here to talk about how "dumb" relics are (I'm looking at you, Ric5), and getting the discussions shut down.

We have yet to see one of these threads not descend into that. That's what's getting old.

Now, to Ric5, you're coming into this thread to say that the concept of relic'ed basses is dumb. Well, I personally think that taking 4 string Rics and J's and turning them into 5 strings is dumb. You don't like relics, I don't like 5 strings, and especially not 4 string conversions. But you don't see me coming in every time you post pics of your basses criticizing your taste.

Seriously, if you don't like it, move on. No need to spoil the thread for other people. Go enjoy threads that have stuff in them you do like. Or if you do have a specific, relevant criticism, make it in a civil manner. This isn't that hard to understand, it's just basic manners...:hmm:

I am trying to talk someone out of what I consider a bad buy ... if you don't like what I do to my basses that is fine by me ... I do it to my basses to satisfy me ... I really don't care what others think about my personal bass collection.

Really there are a lot of genuine used basses that sell for less than new ones ... that is a better buy ...
 
If people don't want opinions on what we think about reliced basses then why do they ask?

You make 5-string conversions on Rics? Cool!

Even though I personally don't like 5-strings or have any plans to ever own or play one I still think it's cool that you are doing something out of the norm.

I'd like to see a 5-string "relic" Ric.
Now that would be REALLY interesting to see.
 
I am trying to talk someone out of what I consider a bad buy ... if you don't like what I do to my basses that is fine by me ... I do it to my basses to satisfy me ... I really don't care what others think about my personal bass collection.

Really there are a lot of genuine used basses that sell for less than new ones ... that is a better buy ...

If people don't want opinions on what we think about reliced basses then why do they ask?

People like the relic treatment because it satisfies them from an aesthetic standpoint. If the basses are anything like the guitars, they're going to be of pretty high quality - much higher than people have come to expect of MIM's. Much closer to that of American's at leat IME.

So, if someone wants that finish, how is one of these a bad buy? It's a high quality bass with a finish you don't care for. Doesn't make it a rip off.

And there's a fine line between discussion and criticism of a product you haven't tried based on things that prospective buyers would consider a feature.

BTW, I actually think the conversion jobs you do are pretty cool. Not a 5 player myself, but they're still pretty wild looking :)
 
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