Fender Rumble 500 Head with 2x 210 cabs

[agedhorse]

Thanks but my understanding is that the HPF and Compressor limiter would protect speakers and that’s what I want to achieve along with increasing the volume so I can compete with rest of band?

in your case, that solution is worse than the non-problem you are trying to solve.

The cabs are Fender Rumble 210 at 8 ohms each

This is not a problem. Your amp and speakers are well matched.

Hi yes I do have the speakers stacked vertically but it’s only 2 cabs high. Each cab is a 210

What’s being suggested is to stack them on their sides vertically. Try it.

 

[JakobT]

Thanks Jakob. Do you use the same amp and if so what master volume do you set it at?

I have a 500 combo and a 210 cab. I’ve rarely gone past 1 o’clock on the Master volume.

 

[Plain Old Barry]

Hi yes I do have the speakers stacked vertically but it’s only 2 cabs high. Each cab is a 210

Are your speaker drivers (not cabinets, the cones inside) diagonal to each other or side by side if the cabinet is sitting upright? If they're diagonal, it may not make much of a difference, but if they're side by side, it probably will.

Either way, stack orientation is always worth experimenting, as cones and ports can interact with each other differently in different orientations.

Oddly enough, (2) 2x10's won't always sound the same as a 4x10.

 

[dougjwray]

• Thanks Doug .. may I ask what is the highest master volume you have used on the head? E.g 1 O Clock

The highest I've had the master is noon or one o'clock. This is with the single 15 cabinet and outdoors with a relatively quiet band (with a drummer and two guitarists). Usually, it's around 10 or 11 o'clock.

 

[Peter Gladwin]

I have a 500 combo and a 210 cab. I’ve rarely gone past 1 o’clock on the Master volume.

Thanks Jakob

The highest I've had the master is noon or one o'clock. This is with the single 15 cabinet and outdoors with a relatively quiet band (with a drummer and two guitarists). Usually, it's around 10 or 11 o'clock.

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Cheers Doug it does seem that most people don’t go past 1 o clock on the master so it’s good to know

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Are your speaker drivers (not cabinets, the cones inside) diagonal to each other or side by side if the cabinet is sitting upright? If they're diagonal, it may not make much of a difference, but if they're side by side, it probably will.

Either way, stack orientation is always worth experimenting, as cones and ports can interact with each other differently in different orientations.

Oddly enough, (2) 2x10's won't always sound the same as a 4x10.

 

[Peter Gladwin]

The 2 speakers are diagonally set within each cab

 

[Chicken Wing]

Bump the gain. I usually play Rumble with Gain at 12 noon (Halfway up)

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Bump the gain. I usually play Rumble with Gain at 12 noon (Halfway up)

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Thanks Chickenwing , where do you normally set the Master volume at gigs please?

 

[Chicken Wing]

Thanks Chickenwing , where do you normally set the Master volume at gigs please?

Between 11 AM to 2 PM depending on what I need. But I don't have a 500 any more. I have a 40 I use for VERY SMALL gigs with 10-30 people. I use an Orange Terror 500 for bigger stuff.

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Between 11 AM to 2 PM depending on what I need. But I don't have a 500 any more. I have a 40 I use for VERY SMALL gigs with 10-30 people. I use an Orange Terror 500 for bigger stuff.

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Thanks for your reply … so the 11am to 2 pm master was on the Rumble 500 or Orange?

 

[agedhorse]

The 2 speakers are diagonally set within each cab

Then you can't stack vertically with the drivers in line, so never mind that suggestion.

 

[Peter Gladwin]

in your case, that solution is worse than the non-problem you are trying to solve.



This is not a problem. Your amp and speakers are well matched.



What’s being suggested is to stack them on their sides vertically. Try it.

 

[Chicken Wing]

Thanks for your reply … so the 11am to 2 pm master was on the Rumble 500 or Orange?

Rumble

 

[Peter Gladwin]

Thanks for your comments Aged Horse but could you please clarify what you mean by “that solution is worse than the non-problem you are trying to solve”

 

[Chicken Wing]

And welcome to TB Peter

 

[jeff7bass]

I'd start with the GAIN at 12:00 and bring up the Master to volume. BASS at noon, low mids at 1:00, high mids at 11:00, and treble at 10:00. And like AH said, remove the front-end limiter/filter for now.