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Fender Rumble Club

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I was talking with the wife about how the Rumgle 500w is a better option in case I do decide to jam with my buddy and he does some drum tracks in his studio. It would cost me an extra $500.00 to add the extra Markbass mini cabinet speaker to get it up to 500w which the a Rumble is already at 500w. Plus I have had a lot of Fender guitar amps, especially in the 80's and mid 90's and never had a single issue with them. So since Fender upped their game now on bass amp quality, it might be the best option for the money. So far I like the tone I got out of the Rumble 100w, 40w and 25w that I tried out. I really didn't like the new Ampeg line's sound too. I am going to try to get out to GC and try out the Rumble 500 today if I feel better. Thanks again for your input and the heads up on Markbass's bad rep with trying to get them serviced.

Sorry, @BornAgainBass, but the Rumble 500 combo itself is "only" 350 watts with it's internal 2 x 10s, which total 8 ohms. You'll need another 8 ohm external cab, such as the Rumble 112 or 115 at $300, or the Rumble 210 at $350, or the Rumble 410 at $400, to get the full 500 Rumble watts. But, rest assured, it'll totally be worth it!

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My Rumble 100 did some dj work today. My 10 year old daughter's softball team had a car wash so I was going to bring my Mackie Pa for tunes. I usually use an 1/8" to XLR cable to go into one powered Mackie and then XLR chain to the next.

I haven't used my PA set up in a while and of course could not locate the cable. So...I brought my Rumble 100, used the audio in jack and then used the XLR out to go into the PA. Plenty of power!

When we were almost done I packed up the PA and just used the little Rumble...it had enough power for outdoor tunes. Here's a quick shot right before we closed shop.
 

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Sorry, @BornAgainBass, but the Rumble 500 combo itself is "only" 350 watts with it's internal 2 x 10s, which total 8 ohms. You'll need another 8 ohm external cab, such as the Rumble 112 or 115 at $300, or the Rumble 210 at $350, or the Rumble 410 at $400, to get the full 500 Rumble watts. But, rest assured, it'll totally be worth it!

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Thanks G-Dog. Yeah I just realized that too when looking more in to it. My memory is shot these days from the meds they have me on for my back lol. I started looking at cabinets now too. But the 350w should be enough to get me by for what I want. My buddy has a drum set in his recording studio at his house and I am just looking for something loud enough so the drums don't drown it out when we finally play together. But now I am looking in to cabinets too lol. I might just have to get the Rumble 500 and then a cabinet later if I decide to play with a band. But that probably wouldn't be for years. I have a lot of practicing and learning to do! But I am looking forward to the journey. Thanks again for your help. Have a great weekend!
 
I went out to GC this evening and tried out the Rumble 500 350w, the Ampeg BA210V2 450w, the TC Electronics BG250-115 250w bass amp. I really didn't like the TC Electronics tone and just about everything about it. Which I was surprised because aI really like their effects pedals for my guitars. The Ampeg just didn't do it for me either. But the Rumble sounded great with my Yamaha TRBX304 pickups. So I am probably going to go with the Rumble 500. Or I might go with the Rumble speaker cabinet and Rumble head since I could get more power at just a couple of hundred dollars more. They didn't have a huge selection out on the floor to try since one whole row was Markbass and 1/3 of the back row was acoustic bass amps and then stacks that were way beyond the size that I was looking for. Plus they were other not so good brands. I still want to try out an Ashdown and Gallien-Krueger combo and cabinet.

I would really like to find a used Line 6 Lowdown LD bass amp but there are none around me. I am new to bass amps so I want to make sure I get the best amp for my needs. So far the Rumble 500 350w wins hands down for tone, settings and portability. Hopefully Sam-Ash has the cabinets, heads and other amps on the floor so I can try them out. I am thinking now about buying the portable amp and a cabinet and head set up since I will be moving to the country in the fall and won't have any neighbors. Might as well get them now so I don't have to travel far to get the cabinet later lol. Plus I am just a gear whore hahahahahaha!!!!
 
I went out to GC this evening and tried out the Rumble 500 350w, the Ampeg BA210V2 450w, the TC Electronics BG250-115 250w bass amp. I really didn't like the TC Electronics tone and just about everything about it. Which I was surprised because aI really like their effects pedals for my guitars. The Ampeg just didn't do it for me either. But the Rumble sounded great with my Yamaha TRBX304 pickups. So I am probably going to go with the Rumble 500. Or I might go with the Rumble speaker cabinet and Rumble head since I could get more power at just a couple of hundred dollars more. They didn't have a huge selection out on the floor to try since one whole row was Markbass and 1/3 of the back row was acoustic bass amps and then stacks that were way beyond the size that I was looking for. Plus they were other not so good brands. I still want to try out an Ashdown and Gallien-Krueger combo and cabinet.

I would really like to find a used Line 6 Lowdown LD bass amp but there are none around me. I am new to bass amps so I want to make sure I get the best amp for my needs. So far the Rumble 500 350w wins hands down for tone, settings and portability. Hopefully Sam-Ash has the cabinets, heads and other amps on the floor so I can try them out. I am thinking now about buying the portable amp and a cabinet and head set up since I will be moving to the country in the fall and won't have any neighbors. Might as well get them now so I don't have to travel far to get the cabinet later lol. Plus I am just a gear whore hahahahahaha!!!!
Go with the 500 head and pick a cab. You can always add or change cabs later based on what and where your playing. :cool:
 
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Go with the 500 head and pick a cab. You can always add or change cabs later based on what and where your playing. :cool:

Thanks Meghans Dad. That's looking like my best option after doing more reading on all the ones out there in my price range. I was looking to play one today but they didn't have any out on the floor. They probably sold out with their 4th of July 15% off sale going on for the last 2'days. Sam Ash is doing the same thing right now. I wish I had the money right now to get a bigger amp but it's probably going to take me till the end of next week to get the cash together. So I am going to try to get over to Sam Ash Sunday and try a Rumble cab and head along with a couple of combo's and stacks. But from what I have read on some of the combo amps not having certain options, like the kick back and a couple of others makes me just go back to thinking about the Rumble 500 or their cab set up as the best choice for the money. But I will see what they have there. Really wish a shop had a used Line 6 LD Lowdown bass amp that I could try out. I have one Line 6 guitar amp that I only use for one of my guitars because the set up sounds good together. My Schecter Damien Solo Elite guitar with active EMG's doesn't sound good through it so I don't use it through that amp. But so far my Yanaha TRBX304 bass sounds awesome through the Rumble's that I have tried so far. Thanks again and Happy 4th Of July!
 
Thanks JacobT. Yeah I couldn't deal with sitting down in the car today or even being able to change out the new strings that came in the mail today. But once I am feeling better, I am going to go and take a look at it. Once I get the back fusion surgery and heal up, I should be able to move that amp around easily if I decide to go with it over the Markbass. I plan on getting a Chevy Silverado Texas a Edition with crew cab and a cap for the back of it. So getting it in to it should be easy at that weight. I could probably do it now once I pass this kidney stone and the nerves in my leg calm down again.

I had an incredibly strong back all my life and then some moron slammed in to my SUV while I was waiting at a set of lights on a highway service road. They were going 70-75mph and texting while driving, hit my right corner bumper which killed the airbag system, bounced me off of the left guard rail, hit me again, hooked in to the right front quarter panel and dragged me 20 yards. Wearing a seatbelt and the angle of the hit, broke my bottom right ribs next to my spine so they couldn't wrap them for fear of me puncturing my right lung so I had to sleep for 6 weeks on my left side with pillows, which was the side where my nerves were pinched and discs were herniated. It blew out all the fluid between my discs which will not go back in with traction therapy so I am bone on bone now and all my lower discs were blown out. So I had to get a discectomy surgery and have them all cut down to 30% but the doctor lied and only cut them down to 6% so my back pain never got better, got worse and now my back is more screwed up than after the accident. My only solution is to get rods put in my lower back to my hip now. Not too happy about it. On top of that, I have kidney stones now from all the years of having to be on meds for it.

I was just getting off all the meds before I had the kidney stone problem too. Which is a bummer. I bought that Quell unit and it actually works and takes away all the nerve pain. I have an amazing chiropractor who used to work for a famous sports team here before he opened his own business and he keeps me going. I had 5 discs and 4 ribs put back in yesterday and even with the next day soreness, I feel so much better today! But life could always be worse and the accident could have put me in a wheelchair, become a paraplegic or killed me if I was driving the Chevy Cruz we have at the time. It just stinks because I am living In a state that's awesome for hunting, fishing and I belong to an archery club right down the street from me and I can't do anything in the outdoors right now for almost 4 years without having to end up bed ridden for the next 2 days afterwards lol. I do a lot of fly fishing and Spey casting which requires a lot of standing up and body movement and not being able to do it is driving me bonkers lol.

But my new doctor who is doing the corrective surgery also had his back fused together and he is able to still ride his dirt bikes and lead a normal life. So I should be able to move an amp around no problem. It's not like the old days where amps were the size of a medium size bureau and you had to wear a back brace and find a friend to help you lmao. Man did I hate it when when we had to move my buddies bass amp around back when we were too young to drive. He lived at the top of a very steep long hill and we had to tie ropes from it to us so it didn't get away and kill someone. But it was a lot better than having to be the one that had to carry the head lmao. We couldn't even find a job in the area so we could buy gear and he could get a smaller amp lol. Rough days and living in Arlington Heights gave your legs a workout from all the hills where we lived lol.

The a Markbass amp I am looking to get is only 300w and cost $300 more dollars than the 500w Rumble. Plus I would have to spend another $500.00 for the matching Markbass mini cabinet speaker to throw under it to get it to 500w at 4 ohm. Even the Markbass used amp in excellent condition costs $625.00 - $650.00 . So price wise and amp output the Rumble 500w is a better deal. The one thing that I like about the Markbass is the VLE (vintage loudspeaker emulator) and the VPF (variable pre-shape filter) options on the built in Little Mark II head. That and the sound that I get out of my set up is great. But I am going to keep an open mind and check out the 500 Rumble because it got all excellent reviews. I have had a bunch of Fender guitar amp in the past and they were all excellent amps. I read that the old Fender bass amps were not so good but now stepped up their game and they are now top of the line for bass amps.

I also read that Ampeg isn't as good as it used to be after they went over to China. Personally I don't know how true that is or have any experience with them to base an opinion of them on, but I have read it online and people have told me that the sound is not what it used to be. Markbass is also made in Indonesia now and their stuff still gets good reviews. So who knows lol. What's good for some might not be good for others for the sound they want. I am hoping to get out and try the Rumble 500w hopefully this weekend. Well I am going to have to stop writing this mini novel now lol. Thanks again and have a great night?

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Hope you get better soon. The Markbass stuff is good, by all accounts, although I personally find the form factor of many of their offerings inconvenient, and I'm not a fan of the yellow speaker cones. Ampeg has a great legacy, but their current stuff is a bit meh, IMO. They sound OK, but they're very heavy, and the build quality isn't all that. I switched from Ampeg to Rumble, and am very happy I did.
 
I went out to GC this evening and tried out the Rumble 500 350w, the Ampeg BA210V2 450w, the TC Electronics BG250-115 250w bass amp. I really didn't like the TC Electronics tone and just about everything about it. Which I was surprised because aI really like their effects pedals for my guitars. The Ampeg just didn't do it for me either. But the Rumble sounded great with my Yamaha TRBX304 pickups. So I am probably going to go with the Rumble 500. Or I might go with the Rumble speaker cabinet and Rumble head since I could get more power at just a couple of hundred dollars more. They didn't have a huge selection out on the floor to try since one whole row was Markbass and 1/3 of the back row was acoustic bass amps and then stacks that were way beyond the size that I was looking for. Plus they were other not so good brands. I still want to try out an Ashdown and Gallien-Krueger combo and cabinet.

I would really like to find a used Line 6 Lowdown LD bass amp but there are none around me. I am new to bass amps so I want to make sure I get the best amp for my needs. So far the Rumble 500 350w wins hands down for tone, settings and portability. Hopefully Sam-Ash has the cabinets, heads and other amps on the floor so I can try them out. I am thinking now about buying the portable amp and a cabinet and head set up since I will be moving to the country in the fall and won't have any neighbors. Might as well get them now so I don't have to travel far to get the cabinet later lol. Plus I am just a gear whore hahahahahaha!!!!

The rumble 500 head and a single cab is the same 350w as the combo, unless you buy a 4 ohm cab. The current rumble line are all 8ohm cabs, so 2 would be needed to get the full 500watts. The combo is still the better value.

350w is plenty though, 500w through the same amount of speakers theoretically is not really much louder than 350w, to get just 3db louder you need 700w, and for double the volume you would need 3500w (and a cabinet with unobtanium speaker coils)

The real boost comes from more speakers pushing more air, the 500w is just a nice touch of headroom and oomph added to the mix.
 
View attachment 1164620 LOOK WHAT WAS WAITING FOR ME WHEN I GOT HOME! Here's a photo for those of you who have never seen a Rumble 200 still inside the box. Didn't stay in there too long, though. Now I have a Rumble 75 AND a Rumble 200. I guess that makes me a Double Rumbler.
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Yes remember mine well 14th Jan 15 the three boxes were my, Am.Std Fender Precision, Fender Rumble 200 combo & a Hercules guitar stand. All three still going strong two & a half years later :thumbsup:.
 
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Yes remember mine well 14th Jan 15 the three boxes were my, Am.Std Fender Precision, Fender Rumble 200 combo & a Hercules guitar stand. All three still going strong two & a half years later :thumbsup:.
That's a great rig. You will make lots of fantastic music with it. I'm amazed how good my Precision sounds through the Rumble 200.
 
How do you all cope with the line out ... not being a real line out? I can cope with it being only post-eq and post-Gain. But post-Master volume as well? This sabotaged our show last night; we had to run our own sound in an outdoor venue. We had no idea why the bass volume was going up and down. We even pulled up the Rumble manual which mentions tone controls and gain, but not master.

I was switching between upright and electric, and only adjusting Master to reduce feedback and to adjust (so I thought) my personal monitoring volume. Nope — I was screwing with the sound coming through the PA. :-(

IMO, this makes the line out worthless. I'll need to get a DI box specifically for the line out that the amp doesn't have. I'm a little miffed, and also disappointed that the amp's value proposition is lower. Because: its true price now includes the additional cost of a DI box, plus the complexity of another device to manage.
 
How do you all cope with the line out ... not being a real line out? I can cope with it being only post-eq and post-Gain. But post-Master volume as well? This sabotaged our show last night; we had to run our own sound in an outdoor venue. We had no idea why the bass volume was going up and down. We even pulled up the Rumble manual which mentions tone controls and gain, but not master.

I was switching between upright and electric, and only adjusting Master to reduce feedback and to adjust (so I thought) my personal monitoring volume. Nope — I was screwing with the sound coming through the PA. :-(

IMO, this makes the line out worthless. I'll need to get a DI box specifically for the line out that the amp doesn't have. I'm a little miffed, and also disappointed that the amp's value proposition is lower. Because: its true price now includes the additional cost of a DI box, plus the complexity of another device to manage.

If you're switching between different instruments with different gains you can use the DRIVE function as a second channel. When I use different basses where one is hotter than the other I'll set the DRIVE level for the weaker one (with the Drive knob completely off) then turn it off for the hotter one. Gives me the same level for both, requires a bit of adjustment to find equivalent levels between the two but not a big deal to do. Problem solved.
 
How do you all cope with the line out ... not being a real line out? I can cope with it being only post-eq and post-Gain. But post-Master volume as well? This sabotaged our show last night; we had to run our own sound in an outdoor venue. We had no idea why the bass volume was going up and down. We even pulled up the Rumble manual which mentions tone controls and gain, but not master.

I was switching between upright and electric, and only adjusting Master to reduce feedback and to adjust (so I thought) my personal monitoring volume. Nope — I was screwing with the sound coming through the PA. :-(

IMO, this makes the line out worthless. I'll need to get a DI box specifically for the line out that the amp doesn't have. I'm a little miffed, and also disappointed that the amp's value proposition is lower. Because: its true price now includes the additional cost of a DI box, plus the complexity of another device to manage.
Ooh! Tread lightly my friend. Some folks here can be a bit sensitive about such things.
 
How do you all cope with the line out ... not being a real line out?
This has been thoroughly discussed ad nauseam for the past three years. It is an XLR out that is as close to micing up your cabinet as you can get without the cost of an expensive microphone.
This sabotaged our show last night
No. You sabotaged your own show by not doing your due diligence. That responsibility lies squarely upon your own shoulders. Now you know better. I am reminded of the old adage that 'it is the poor workman that blames his tools'.
 
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I simply use an external DI, like I always have regardless if the amp has one onboard or not. Dedicated DI's like ones from Radial tend to be higher quality than ones you find onboard(there are exceptions of course). I also wish the Rumble club would be a bit more tolerant, informative and educational, anyone with the slightest complaint gets hammered...not cool IMO.
 
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