Seen them on Thomann, with availability in March.Bah! Humbug! Still no Stage 800 or Studio 40 on the Fender website.
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Bah! Humbug! Still no Stage 800 or Studio 40 on the Fender website.
Does that mean we are skipping FF this week?
I was on a thread in the Amps and Cabs Forum and the discussion included reference to the '60's Dynaco MKlll 60 watt amp that I had way back then. @bobbyyoung53 was kind enough to correct me as I thought it was 100 watts. I played it thru a cab with 2-15 JBL D140F's.
I just picked up a Fender Rumble 200c which Fender rates at 140 watts thru it's 1-15" and wonder how it would compare with Dynaco's "60 real watts, RMS continuous at < 1% distortion", power-wise? Also, if the Rumble was connected to a second 15" cab would it have less, the same or more power?
I know this is a "which watts" issue that's been discussed before but "real watts" is new to me.
I just picked up a Fender Rumble 200c which Fender rates at 140 watts thru it's 1-15" and wonder how it would compare with Dynaco's "60 real watts, RMS continuous at < 1% distortion", power-wise? Also, if the Rumble was connected to a second 15" cab would it have less, the same or more power?
I know this is a "which watts" issue that's been discussed before but "real watts" is new to me.
Here's something that made me smile and make it a Happy Fender Friday! 
Michael Rhodes is one of the most recorded bass players in history. This clip is from part 4 of a 5 part interview. Check it out from 1:45
Michael Rhodes is one of the most recorded bass players in history. This clip is from part 4 of a 5 part interview. Check it out from 1:45
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Here's something that made me smile and make it a Happy Fender Friday!
Michael Rhodes is one of the most recorded bass players in history this clip is from part 4 of a 4 part interview. Check it out from 1:45
Nice!
OK, maybe my question should have been...Is the Rumble's 140 watts more than twice the power of the Dynaco's 60 watts?
Don't know the answer to that. At face value, 200 > 60, but then what watts? Or is that which watts?
It's probably "who's watts"
. Dynaco's 60 or Fender's 140. Don't know if we want to go back to the past discussion...I do know that the Dynaco setup years ago was plenty loud enough to fill a 100 x 75 ft. auditorium with a stage and 20 ft ceiling. I currently am not in a gigging band and I do not have the second cab so I was hoping that someone might know if the Dynaco's type of rating is similar to Fender's.
R.M.S.(root mean square) watts is not the same way of measuring as Fender's usage of 'Clean Continuous Watts' which in turn is not the same as VooDoo Duty Cycle Burst Watts that most everyone else is using.
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I am now able to post my video of Shane telling us about the Studio 40 and Stage 800. Product is not set to ship until March.
Woo-Hoo!
Thanks @tombowlus for helping to make our Fender Friday a Happier Fender Friday! 
Hi @JKos .. As you asked if I could measure the 'Line Out' and 'Headphone' output compared to the 'Effects Send' and as you can see the line out and headphone offers near identical result apart from the line out (XLR) being rolled off at the low end.
Blue via effects send, Red via XLR (line out), Yellow headphone out. Black reference signal.
All tone controls at 12 o'clock. You can see that considerable 'scoop' or bass and treble boost has been applied to the line and headphone outputs. Wasn't expecting that.. Hope you find this useful
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If you set the tone controls so the response evened out, wouldn't that be considered "flat" rather than 12 o'clock?View attachment 2900766
Hi @JKos .. As you asked if I could measure the 'Line Out' and 'Headphone' output compared to the 'Effects Send' and as you can see the line out and headphone offers near identical result.
Blue via effects send, Red via XLR (line out), Yellow headphone out. Black reference signal.
All tone controls at 12 o'clock. You can see that considerable 'scoop' or bass and treble boost has been applied to the line and headphone outputs. Wasn't expecting that.. Hope you find this useful
Excellent, Glenn!
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We are looking at the relative difference between the three outputs. As long as the tone controls are in the same position for each measurement, you can deduce the impact of the speaker cab sim (the additional mid dip and high-end roll-off of the red and yellow lines) and the HPF (the low end roll-off of the red line).
- John
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I see.
Would it be a worthwhile exercise to adjust the controls and measure each output so each curve is as flat as possible so the user would know where "flat" is?
Could be done but by design it's not completely possible. I posted this a while back showing approx positions for flat(ish) via the FX send. The line and headphone output are too extreme to flatten in any useful way and likely does not matter.
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