Fender Rumble Club

[Pbassmanca]

The Rumble 200 is a very nice sounding amp. I was playing an American Standard P Bass with rotosound stainless steel strings through the rumble 200 combo today and it had a great sound. Lots of low's and punch and lots of growling mids as well.

 

[Linnin]

The problem is nobody reads anymore. I remember an old project to get children to read. You'd see things like Reading Is Fundamental, and public service announcement that asked a child, "What do you get when you read?" Answer: "The smarts!". A teenager I knew was watching that said "a headache" and that he "hated to read".

One of the things I did when I was at Virginia Commonwealth University was to read to pre-school children. Most had never been read to. There were no books in their home, and their mothers did not read anything at all. In most cases no fathers were present.

Here we have a tremendous resource put together and maintained by @G-Dog as a labor of love. Read It And Get the Smarts.

 

[SoulReflection]

Echo . . . Echo . . . echo . . . echo . . . .

Everyone commented on the lack of extension cab at the same time

 

[Linnin]

Yes, bit no ability to use an extension cab

Until recently, 2014, all Rumble combos were just that. Combos, with no powered extension speaker output jacks. None of the Hartke HD combos have extension jacks, and only the most powerful ampeg 210 has one. GKs have to use very expensive powered extension speaker cabinets. Make no mistake Fender Rumble is leading the way and everyone else is scrambling just to keep up.

 

[JakobT]

Everyone commented on the lack of extension cab at the same time

Just shows that great minds often think alike.

 

[/\/\3phist0]

Until recently, 2014, all Rumble combos were just that. Combos, with no powered extension speaker output jacks. None of the Hartke HD combos have extension jacks, and only the most powerful ampeg 210 has one. GKs have to use very expensive powered extension speaker cabinets. Make no mistake Fender Rumble is leading the way and everyone else is scrambling just to keep up.

Linnin there have been many combos from other manufacturers going back many years that have had extension cab capibility.
I don't see your point.

 

[JakobT]

Until recently, 2014, all Rumble combos were just that. Combos, with no powered extension speaker output jacks. None of the Hartke HD combos have extension jacks, and only the most powerful ampeg 210 has one. GKs have to use very expensive powered extension speaker cabinets. Make no mistake Fender Rumble is leading the way and everyone else is scrambling just to keep up.

I hear that. But I was thinking how nice a 100 with a 112 extension cab would have been. If you recall, I once wired up my 100 and 40 to approximate it. A 100/112 would have been an awesome mini-rig, and would have wiped the floor with, say, Ampeg’s Micro CL stack.

 

[Linnin]

Linin there have been many combos from other manufacturers going back many years that have had extension cab capibility.
I don't see your point.

The only two I know of was a Bassman Ten that I had in mid 1970's and my much beloved Studio Bass from 1979-2005. They had outputs. But recently in the value bass combo markets, no. You don't have to get my point. It's not required.

 

[SoulReflection]

Linin there have been many combos from other manufacturers going back many years that have had extension cab capibility.
I don't see your point.

Sometimes its just better to move on....

 

[Linnin]

But the 100c can't use an extension speaker. That could have been the difference.

There is a bit more to it than that (I think). First it may have been viewed as 100 watts were just not enough. Also this was Fender's first in house D-class power amp design. Perhaps they didn't want to put the stress of a 4 ohm load on it. The Emincence 12" woofer in the Rumble 100 is not as robust as the later Rumble 112 design. So the woofers are different. Just like the now crazy popular Rumble 210 cabinet, the Rumble 112 was introduced a year later at Winter NAMM 2015 and because of ever tightening production capacity at Fender's Indonesian facility, were built for Fender by Eminence in China. Rumble 410 manufacturing was moved to Ensenada, Mexico. At that time Fender Champion 100 2x12 guitar combos were selling hand-over-fist, and the extreme popularity of the Rumble 500 combo took everyone by surprise. It took a year and a half along with two price hikes to get demand in line with production capacity. All this with a factory running full tilt boogie 24/7. Having the two best selling amplifiers on planet Earth at the same time is a good thing. I don't know how the Champion line is fairing right now because I haven't asked, but I do know the Fender Rumble line is the best selling in the world and that the Rumble 500 continues to wear the Best Selling Bass Amp crown four years in a row.

 

[G-Dog]

There is a bit more to it than that (I think). First it may have been viewed as 100 watts were just not enough. Also this was Fender's first in house D-class power amp design. Perhaps they didn't want to put the stress of a 4 ohm load on it. The Emincence 12" woofer in the Rumble 100 is not as robust as the later Rumble 112 design. So the woofers are different. Just like the now crazy popular Rumble 210 cabinet, the Rumble 112 was introduced a year later at Winter NAMM 2015 and because of ever tightening production capacity at Fender's Indonesian facility, were built for Fender by Eminence in China. Rumble 410 manufacturing was moved to Ensenada, Mexico. At that time Fender Champion 100 2x12 guitar combos were selling hand-over-fist, and the extreme popularity of the Rumble 500 combo took everyone by surprise. It took a year and a half along with two price hikes to get demand in line with production capacity. All this with a factory running full tilt boogie 24/7. Having the two best selling amplifiers on planet Earth at the same time is a good thing. I don't know how the Champion line is fairing right now because I haven't asked, but I do know the Fender Rumble line is the best selling in the world and that the Rumble 500 continues to wear the Best Selling Bass Amp crown four years in a row.

Yeah, I remember you saying that the 15” woofer is the same in the 200c and the 115, thus kinda "wasting" some power handling in the combo. IF they did that to the 100c w/extension they would be "wasting" a even more in that combo, or mismatching the woofers (which might not work so well).

Oh, well . . . . . . (sigh)

 

[Killed_by_Death]

The 100 doesn't have an extension cabinet jack, but it does have an effects loop, which is why I've been considering getting one.

 

[G-Dog]

The 100 doesn't have an extension cabinet jack, but it does have an effects loop, which is why I've been considering getting one.

. . . because . . . . ?

 

[Michael B]

. . . because . . . . ?

My guess is when you buy the 200 without an extension you get 140. So you might think, well the 100 is almost 140 and costs less and you don't need an extension.

IMO the 200 feels like a lot more than the 100 even without the extension. I was able to use the 200 in a loud rock rehearsal but not the 100.

It was fun combining them at home. I intended to leave the 200 at rehearsal but I never trusted the strangers enough to do that.

 

[G-Dog]

. . . . IMO the 200 feels like a lot more than the 100 even without the extension. I was able to use the 200 in a loud rock rehearsal but not the 100.

12.5 pounds difference..

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I think Michael was taking about it sounding louder.

. . . because . . . . ?

I've got a couple of applications for the use of a FX Send. Right now I'm using a simple Y-Splitter, but it proves a little noisy (ground loop).

What would be cool is sending the FX Send to AmpliTube on my computer, for a stereo rig.

I also realize the 12" Eminence is a little better sounding for bass than the 10" non-Eminence in the 40.
The only thing is, it does lose a little top-end in comparison.

 

[Linnin]

IMO the 200 feels like a lot more than the 100 even without the extension. I was able to use the 200 in a loud rock rehearsal but not the 100.

^^^Agreed^^^ That's why I bought your Rumble 200 (that I still have!)
Rumbles Rock!

 

[Linnin]

12.5 pounds difference..

POWER! not pounds

 

[Michael B]

^^^Agreed^^^ That's why I bought your Rumble 200 (that I still have!)
Rumbles Rock!

I was enticed by the extra power of the 500. But it had 2x10s. I still miss the 200. But the stage is so flexible I think it's a happy ending. I have added the 15" extension for fun. It really doesn't need it. And with the flexibility of the Stage, the speakers just work really well.

 

[Pbassmanca]

The Rumble 200 is a very nice sounding amp. I was playing an American Standard P Bass with rotosound stainless steel strings through the rumble 200 combo today and it had a great sound. Lots of low's and punch and lots of growling mids as well.

I was looking at the specs for the Rumble Stage 800, and it is very impressive. A 400 watt 210 combo @ 8ohms and with extension cab 800 watts @ 4ohm. 800 watts into a 410 4ohm rig.....That's a lot of watts meng..... I've played the studio 40, and it's sounds great for its size and power rating, not to mention, how awesome all of those effects presets are. A lot of those tones sound very legit. I can imagine how amazing some of the Bassman, Super Bassman, and SVT presets would sound through "the big rig" Stage 800....plus it's 39 lbs with ceramic drivers. That's a light schlep folks!!!