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Fender Rumble Club

Happy Fender Friday!

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This rig sure made a hit over at The Combo Club!
 
Anyone seen the new blackstar unity bass amps and how they match up to the incredible rumble bass amps? Do they come close? How close do they come? Are they just as good? I can’t imagine them being any better, (tone wise, not features), but if they are I will be surprised.

They seem to have a bit more features which is alright, but more than the standard rumbles not the digital ones.

What are the price differences, and weight differences, between, for example, a 500 rumble and 500 unity?

Anyone got any word on the unity amps?

Thanks guys.
Keep rumblin’! :roflmao:
 
I'm looking for a new amp, and have been taking a look at a Rumble 200 combo available at a local store. Since availabity and prices over here are a pain in the ass, my options are pretty limited. I'm between this and a TC Electronic BG250-112. I'm planning to use it as a home amp and hopefully some small-venue gigs in the near future.

Any pros/cons and experiences you're willing to share about this model? When compared to the TCE, in what ways is it better and worse (I know this is a pretty subjective thing to ask, but I'd like to see your opinions)?
 
I'm looking for a new amp, and have been taking a look at a Rumble 200 combo available at a local store. Since availabity and prices over here are a pain in the ass, my options are pretty limited. I'm between this and a TC Electronic BG250-112. I'm planning to use it as a home amp and hopefully some small-venue gigs in the near future.

Any pros/cons and experiences you're willing to share about this model? When compared to the TCE, in what ways is it better and worse (I know this is a pretty subjective thing to ask, but I'd like to see your opinions)?

I've never tried the TC BG250. The only TC amp I've played wasn't mine and I was so quite on stage I couldn't even hear it. From their demos this one sounds pretty good.

TC makes great effects, I highly recommend them. However you need more then 1 knob. TC ties up to 3 parameters to each knob depending on the toneprint (or how you configure it). In the case of the Spectracomp (an always on pedal for me) this isn't a big deal as the volume jump simply becomes my new volume. Configuring an OD, chorus, or delay with 1 knob would be difficult. Not impossible, you could whip em into shape if you really spent your time with the PC software. But expect a big learning curve and a long time in front of the computer. Maybe you'll get lucky with toneprints but better to keep expectations low and be pleasantly surprised.

The TC doesn't appear to have an external cab output. 250 watts into 112 isn't really enough to gig with. Not that it won't do the trick, my 200 watt MB112 never had an issue being heard but it had no headroom, and it really lacked low end as in my case the combo wasn't big enough to produce an adequate low end for me. (Like the low end you can feel not just hear.) This combo doesn't look much bigger. With good FoH support that's no real issue, and in a bedroom you'd be fine too.

The Rumble does have a speaker output jack. That means you can add a 115, or a 210, or 410, whichever you prefer down the road. And while a Rumble cab is guaranteed to sound good with it there could be other cabs that work well too. So not only will the 115 move more air, making it nearly as loud as the TC anyway but it can have more speakers making it louder period.

The Rumbles OD is nothing to scoff at either. It's really, really good. Yeah you only get 2 knobs but that's all you need to keep the volume balanced and get the gain you want. And it takes about 3 seconds to set it, but a few hours to truly begin to master. The gain functions in a way I really like, the 4-band EQ is great and very expressive. And it'll make a really good guitar or keyboard amp too.

My bias is heavily towards the Fender though, and I won't tell you which to buy. You should hear them for yourself and decide based upon the sound.

The TCs toneprints are a non-feature IMO, I wouldn't even put it on the consideration list. Out of the box they're both nearly identical in weight and probably volume. The Rumble will handle more scenarios, and is probably a better long-term investment. Both amps will likely last you as long as you want em to. So really you just gotta play em and go with whichever suits you best.

Good luck!
 
Hey everybody, I've got the Rumble 200 combo and I'm looking at getting the Bassman 500 hybrid head with a 1x15 cabinet. Would the Bassman make that much of a difference in tone? Mostly the reason I'm looking at the new setup is for the increased wattage and I'm hoping for a bit of that tube warmth. Later on down the road I was gonna run it with another 1x15 cabinet.
 
Hey everybody, I've got the Rumble 200 combo and I'm looking at getting the Bassman 500 hybrid head with a 1x15 cabinet. Would the Bassman make that much of a difference in tone? Mostly the reason I'm looking at the new setup is for the increased wattage and I'm hoping for a bit of that tube warmth. Later on down the road I was gonna run it with another 1x15 cabinet.
I suggest picking up another 2x10 for a 4x10 vertical stack.l
 
Hey everybody, I've got the Rumble 200 combo and I'm looking at getting the Bassman 500 hybrid head with a 1x15 cabinet. Would the Bassman make that much of a difference in tone? Mostly the reason I'm looking at the new setup is for the increased wattage and I'm hoping for a bit of that tube warmth. Later on down the road I was gonna run it with another 1x15 cabinet.

Yes, @AModestRat, I believe you can get a significant tonal difference from the Rumble 200 with the Bassman 500. See my description here: Fender Rumble Club


Hope this helps.
 
I've never tried the TC BG250. The only TC amp I've played wasn't mine and I was so quite on stage I couldn't even hear it. From their demos this one sounds pretty good.

TC makes great effects, I highly recommend them. However you need more then 1 knob. TC ties up to 3 parameters to each knob depending on the toneprint (or how you configure it). In the case of the Spectracomp (an always on pedal for me) this isn't a big deal as the volume jump simply becomes my new volume. Configuring an OD, chorus, or delay with 1 knob would be difficult. Not impossible, you could whip em into shape if you really spent your time with the PC software. But expect a big learning curve and a long time in front of the computer. Maybe you'll get lucky with toneprints but better to keep expectations low and be pleasantly surprised.

The TC doesn't appear to have an external cab output. 250 watts into 112 isn't really enough to gig with. Not that it won't do the trick, my 200 watt MB112 never had an issue being heard but it had no headroom, and it really lacked low end as in my case the combo wasn't big enough to produce an adequate low end for me. (Like the low end you can feel not just hear.) This combo doesn't look much bigger. With good FoH support that's no real issue, and in a bedroom you'd be fine too.

The Rumble does have a speaker output jack. That means you can add a 115, or a 210, or 410, whichever you prefer down the road. And while a Rumble cab is guaranteed to sound good with it there could be other cabs that work well too. So not only will the 115 move more air, making it nearly as loud as the TC anyway but it can have more speakers making it louder period.

The Rumbles OD is nothing to scoff at either. It's really, really good. Yeah you only get 2 knobs but that's all you need to keep the volume balanced and get the gain you want. And it takes about 3 seconds to set it, but a few hours to truly begin to master. The gain functions in a way I really like, the 4-band EQ is great and very expressive. And it'll make a really good guitar or keyboard amp too.

My bias is heavily towards the Fender though, and I won't tell you which to buy. You should hear them for yourself and decide based upon the sound.

The TCs toneprints are a non-feature IMO, I wouldn't even put it on the consideration list. Out of the box they're both nearly identical in weight and probably volume. The Rumble will handle more scenarios, and is probably a better long-term investment. Both amps will likely last you as long as you want em to. So really you just gotta play em and go with whichever suits you best.

Good luck!

Thanks BBassBassington, that was a really great answer! Will definitely check both out, but I wanted to see which features does someone else highlight about them.
In the end, I consider they're both good options, so it'll depend on which one sounds more like me :)
 
Thanks BBassBassington, that was a really great answer! Will definitely check both out, but I wanted to see which features does someone else highlight about them.
In the end, I consider they're both good options, so it'll depend on which one sounds more like me :)
I never played through one, but reading reviews of the TC(by purchasers)it became clear it would not produce the lows that I like. Over the years I have owned quite a few different brand bass amps(SVT blue line, R&P Kustom, Peavey, vintage Fender Bassman [63]) and I keep coming back to Fenders. So now, I'll stay with them, especially for the weight consideration. My preference is a solid, fat bottom end-sound wise-and I can EQ in more highs but if the lows aren't there to begin with, you're hosed.
 
Hey everybody, I've got the Rumble 200 combo and I'm looking at getting the Bassman 500 hybrid head with a 1x15 cabinet. Would the Bassman make that much of a difference in tone? Mostly the reason I'm looking at the new setup is for the increased wattage and I'm hoping for a bit of that tube warmth. Later on down the road I was gonna run it with another 1x15 cabinet.
You'll probably want to let everyone know what type of music you're playing. In my opinion, the volume of the 500 is not a consideration because it's not noticeable. I have the 200c with an additional 115 cabinet and also a 500 Rumble. I wish I would have saved the 400 bucks because the 500 has no noticeable increase in volume to my old ears. If you want tube sound, get an old P bass and use the 115 with the 200, crank up the vintage and there you go! Or find a good used Peavey VB2. I got one for 600 bucks in like new condition. I think Fender make the best amps for the money but if more volume is what you're looking for, you'll need a lot more than a 500. If tube is what you're looking for and you can't get it out of the 200c with an additional 115 cabinet, then an all tube would be a better choice I think. Happy amp hunting anyways since that's half the fun!
 

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